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#Post#: 59435--------------------------------------------------
STILL haven't
DIR By: Ally
Date: April 30, 2013, 4:28 pm
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driven the thing! Sooo frustrating. It took 2 days, and much
gentle chivvying to get my policy docs emailed to me, then I
dashed off down to the Post Office to get a tax disc yesterday,
only to find it closed due to a strike!!
Then I had to go down to Southampton today to spend a day in the
office, and didn't fancy a trip of that magnitude as my first
outing in it - so looks like tomorrow will be the day! I can't
wait!
Noticed the other day whilst playing in the carpark, that the
steering is exceptionally heavy. I know that Ive been a poncy
sports car driver for a long time, and I know they are heavy at
low speed, but have also noted that the MOT tester commented on
how heavy the steering was. Normal - in LR terms, or something I
should be looking into?
#Post#: 59437--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: Arjan
Date: April 30, 2013, 4:36 pm
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Bon Soir,
- Tyre Pressure
- Tyre Type
- Lack of oils..
Get the front wheels of the ground and you should be able to
turn the steeringwheel with 1 finger.
Steering Relays are known to make steering heavy..
#Post#: 59438--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: Ally
Date: April 30, 2013, 4:48 pm
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I shall check all the above. Not sure my pathetic axle stands
are up to the job, but there's only one way to find out! It's
wearing pretty standard looking road tyres (205 R16), which are
in fairly good nick (although I admit that one looks like it
could do with a bit of air in it.
I'm fairly neurotic about tyres, after 5 years of owning a car
which spat the dummy in a big way if it didn't have a brand it
liked, with very precise pressures!
#Post#: 59439--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: Albert Ross
Date: April 30, 2013, 5:03 pm
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They should be "one finger" light when just rolling. That's a
heavily laden working 109 in traffic too. Not some poncy 88" out
for a jolly somewhere. :rolleye0012:
#Post#: 59443--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: NoelC
Date: April 30, 2013, 5:26 pm
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Series steering is one of the things that never ceases to amaze
me in how variable it can be from vehicle to vehicle. I've lost
count of the number of series I've driven and no two were
absolutely identical. Radials do put up more of a fight than
crossplies, and an 88 would have left the factory with 6.50x16
crossplies so your 205s are 20% wider too.
As far as pressures are concerned I'd add between 5 and 10psi
over what the manual says. I run 7.50x16 Mich XZYs at 35psi on
the 109 and they still look a bit on the flat side, the book
reckons 25psi. I'd wager thats the radial vs crossply thing at
work again.
The steering was nearly unturnable in my 88 at one point, the
culprit was the steering relay having no oil. Most people ignore
it or don't know it needs topping up. You'll need to remove the
front grill then take two of the small hex head setscrews out of
the relay, then dribble EP90 in. I was surprised, after 20 or so
turns lock to lock mine freed right up. Same applies to the
steering box, worth topping that up too. Failing that the swivel
pin preload may be wrong or the kingpins partially seized. The
easy way to check is slacken off all 8 kingpin bolts half a turn
or so and see if that makes a difference, if it does an extra
shim may solve the issue.
MOT testers (Jim excluded) can get a bit excitable over any
play in the kingpins, it's quite common for people to remove a
shim and set the preload too high to get the pass, then they
won't be arsed to set it right afterwards. Not that I've ever
done that of course... :smile1
#Post#: 59449--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: Albert Ross
Date: April 30, 2013, 11:28 pm
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I have the interim double bearing type axle on mine. Every year
at MoT, the same tester sucks his teeth. I have to show him the
cutaway diagram of the upper bearing with the spring, and
explain about the engineered slip in he system..... you should
have seen him scratching his head with ripped swivel gaiters...
I had to prove they were an optional fitment, and I showed him
the big seal..... explaining that the rule for disc brakes did
not apply.
#Post#: 59451--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: Jagger
Date: May 1, 2013, 1:54 am
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My mates 1962 swb had been in the barn for a a couple of years
without being moved and it took two of us to turn the steering
wheel to get it out.It turned out to be the top bush seized
solid.A quick strip and lube and it was perfect.
#Post#: 59472--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: Ally
Date: May 1, 2013, 7:52 am
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Jesus H Christ! I've taxed it and been for a drive round the
block, and it scared the crap out of me! Wanders all over the
road like a demon. I'm SURE my old one wasn't this bad! Slightly
improved by putting air in the tyres, but if this is normal,
it's going to take a while to get used to!! Great fun though,
but I was sweating by the time I got back - combination of fear
and trying desperately to keep it going in a straight line.
Built up area not a good place to practice - I think I might
need to strap on my brave knickers and get it up to the yard, so
I can get used to it in peace and quiet!
#Post#: 59482--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: NoelC
Date: May 1, 2013, 10:13 am
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Another thought - does the steering self centre OK?
#Post#: 59483--------------------------------------------------
Re: STILL haven't
DIR By: FenTiger
Date: May 1, 2013, 10:18 am
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Lots of things need checking:
Tracking
Tyre pressures
Swivel pre-loads
steering box play
Relay oil / free movement
Track rod ends
Steering arm security
I could go on...
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