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       #Post#: 59413--------------------------------------------------
       Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: April 30, 2013, 3:19 pm
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       The 88 is in need of attention to the front brakes. They're the
       TLS flavour, always going out of adjustment, are a complete
       bastard to bleed and so before I start I'm thinking of binning
       them off in favour of some 109 rears.
       Q: are the 11 inch drums that I have on the TLS the same as
       those on the 109 rears?
       To do the conversion I will need backplates, shoes, cylinders
       and springs from a 109 - is there anything else needed that I
       may have forgotten about?
       #Post#: 59420--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: Albert Ross
       Date: April 30, 2013, 3:53 pm
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       Watch the hose threads/angles be different....... The drums are
       identical. Mine are fine BTW.... dunno why people struggle with
       TLS brakes.
       #Post#: 59422--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: April 30, 2013, 3:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Albert Ross link ---
       >
       > dunno why people struggle with TLS brakes.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Me neither Dave drove mine on Sunday and decided his were
       fucked!  ;D
       #Post#: 59456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: quattrofoto
       Date: May 1, 2013, 3:05 am
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       Dave,
       If it would help, you're more than welcome to pop up to ours to
       see if we can improve things, I've still got the pressure
       bleeding gizmo handy. *Ignore my Brake Bleeding Woes thread of
       recent times I've now fixed my problem*
       Ste
       #Post#: 59462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: ajb403
       Date: May 1, 2013, 4:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Albert Ross link ---
       >
       > The drums are identical.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No they're not. The front TLS brake shoes are 11" diameter and
       3" wide, the rear SLS brake shoes on a 109 are 11" diameter and
       2 1/4" wide.  The brake drums for the rear are narrower than
       those on the front......as I found out when I tried to replace
       my front drums and the replacements didn't fit!
       #Post#: 59464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: RMS
       Date: May 1, 2013, 6:19 am
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       I think only the 6 pot front brakes are 3" wide.
       As far as I know, standard LWB front brakes are 2 1/4" wide.
       The drums are different - the 2 1/4" wide drums have a 1/2" wide
       chamfer on the outside edge - the 3" drums are the same size but
       no chamfer.
       Both are TLS  though   :rolleye0012:
       #Post#: 59465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: Albert Ross
       Date: May 1, 2013, 6:38 am
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       Believe me.... the drums are identical on 4 cylinder models. I
       am amazed anyone doubted me...... :rolleye0012:
       #Post#: 59466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: May 1, 2013, 6:56 am
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       --- Quote from: quattrofoto link ---
       >
       > Dave,
       >
       > If it would help, you're more than welcome to pop up to ours
       to see if we can improve things, I've still got the pressure
       bleeding gizmo handy. *Ignore my Brake Bleeding Woes thread of
       recent times I've now fixed my problem*
       >
       > Ste
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks. I will give you a call sometime this week.  :thumbs:
       I'll have a go at sorting the existing set up. The front
       cylinder that I got from Wilkobob and fitted as an emergency
       measure, about 3 weeks ago, is already leaking. Still, it was
       made by Shitpart and I said at the time it wouldn't be long
       before I was doing the job again.  :smiley-furious:
       Good luck with renewing all of your brake cylinders with
       Shitpart, Simon.  rofl
       #Post#: 59474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: ajb403
       Date: May 1, 2013, 8:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Albert Ross link ---
       >
       > Believe me.... the drums are identical on 4 cylinder models. I
       am amazed anyone doubted me...... :rolleye0012:
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I stand corrected. My 109 is a 6 pot hence the 3" front brakes
       comment, I had it in my head all 109s had the same.
       #Post#: 59484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brakes question - just remind me...
   DIR By: quattrofoto
       Date: May 1, 2013, 10:24 am
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       I'm more or less free all week (after work) but next few
       weekends I have a few nudey shoots to do. It's a hard life..
       :rolleye0012:
       Send me a text if I miss your call, something I'm good at
       apparently.
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