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#Post#: 59477--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: FenTiger
Date: May 1, 2013, 8:49 am
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--- Quote from: Lucy link ---
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> A 101 is not and never will be as good off road as a 101; it
was never meant to be and always requires a fair bit of fettling
to make it better. Even with a Para gun crew to weigh it down a
101 doesnt, in standard form do what the 109 does. Try it back
to back and see - until you have though, you are entitled to be
defensive of your motor. (Have a search around for videos of
EOD 2009, and witness the 101 getting through where all but a
couple of tricked up 88s failed. Made a better noise doing it
too :) )
>
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HTML http://youtu.be/9yM7VVb2p6M
Mine was the green v8 88 with the winch, that I should never
have sold...
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Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: NoelC
Date: May 1, 2013, 10:07 am
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--- Quote from: Nonimouse link ---
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> Don't you love it when people get protective over their
vehicle choice - I'm not knocking either people or choice
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Not being protective at all, I've owned both types.
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> However Reason 1 not to take a 101 - it's not expendable.
Never overland in a vehicle that you don't want to lose... A
109 is relatively cheap and easy to replace - I will always
regret selling my 101 and it wasn't even a good example; I hate
to thing how I would feel at leaving a 101 and just walking away
- yet I've done that with both Hi-Lux and "Vehicle of inferior
length" (luckily without carnet issues to bite my rotund arse)
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That is a fair comment, I'd guess where would have a bearing on
how likely the need would be to leave the vehicle behind.
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> Reason not to put a cummins in a 101 - why bother! Petrol is
cheap in Africa and so many other interesting places, in fact
often very cheap and a V8 is just about right in a 101, so why
bother with a conversion and all it's associated issues...
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I've not overlanded so am dependent on the knowledge of those
that have, however there is plenty of information such as that
here:
HTML http://drivetheglobe.com/blog/?p=532
HTML http://drivetheglobe.com/blog/?p=532
that points to diesel being
the fuel of choice, particularly in Africa. The Cummins 4BT is a
bloody good lump, we run a fair few here in small 28 seat buses
and it's arguably better than it's bigger brother the 6BT. In a
Plaxton Primo 28 seat bus (mated to Allison auto) we get 13mpg
and that weighs in at 5800kg unladen. A 101 weighing less than
half that is comparable on petrol, it would be interesting to
see what a 101 can manage with a 4BT but I'd bet it begins with
a 2.
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> A 101 is not and never will be as good off road as a 101; it
was never meant to be and always requires a fair bit of fettling
to make it better. Even with a Para gun crew to weigh it down a
101 doesnt, in standard form do what the 109 does. Try it back
to back and see - until you have though, you are entitled to be
defensive of your motor. On road though that 101 driving
position is nice although I find that I get knee issues after a
couple of hours unless seatage has been shuffled around
> It's relatively simple to modify the 101 to be better off
road, but simple still (and cheaper) to do the same to a 109...
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I still don't fathom that. The 101 has vastly superior approach,
departure and ramp breakover angles and the ground clearance is
better too. Don't get me wrong, I like my 109s and the 109
ambulance has done some pretty amazing stuff in the states but
my money would be on the 101 every time.
#Post#: 59489--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: Gadget
Date: May 1, 2013, 11:34 am
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I was wondering when that clip would turn up :rolleye0012:
Wasn't Nelly the only one to clear the mud run?
#Post#: 59513--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: Lucy
Date: May 1, 2013, 3:39 pm
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Boots and mucky did it too, then spent hours fixing motors.
#Post#: 59678--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: Nonimouse
Date: May 3, 2013, 12:38 pm
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Mmm Belleview or Warn 5687 on the lil' 88 HT - now that is pure
winch porn; only beaten in the Kleenex stakes by an RE12000 at
full chat
#Post#: 59783--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: pesto
Date: May 4, 2013, 2:19 pm
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--- Quote from: Nonimouse link ---
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> In all seriousness it's an interesting point...
>
> One of the best overland trucks out there is the Volvo C303 -
with the TGB13 being the Daddy. Oddly enough not used that much
by the overland fraternity...
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>
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Very interesting that the Volvo C303 is coming up. I was already
checking with folk using the truck for overlanding... This is
still an option for a bigger journey in a few years. For now I
would like to use my first Land Rover which I bought 23 years
ago together with a friend. A few years later she got completely
renovated and has now deserved such a trip.
I like the C303 a lot. The seating position is great and by
being forward contolled you get space even the truck is short.
The distance between the axles is about 90 inch. And that is
one point I'm a little bit concerned of. I'm not sure about the
intensity of pitching when loaded. But the truck could be easily
elongated by 10 inch and that would improve the driving comfort
for sure.
How much bigger is the 101? What is the weight of a 101?
--- Quote from: Nonimouse link ---
>
> Mmm Belleview or Warn 5687 on the lil' 88 HT - now that is
pure winch porn; only beaten in the Kleenex stakes by an RE12000
at full chat
>
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I've never had a winch mounted and I never really missed it. I
will have the high jack with me and a handoperated winch which I
can use in all directions. This is saving weight on an anyway
too much loaded vehicle. An earth anchor could be a good
complement.
#Post#: 59829--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: Lucy
Date: May 4, 2013, 7:36 pm
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The ambulance body 101 is about 2.5m tall 2.5m wide and 5m long
overall
It may not be quite as long as that, but I'm going from memory
and mine has a spare wheel carrier on the back.
#Post#: 59935--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: Nonimouse
Date: May 5, 2013, 4:35 pm
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101
4.3m long
2.2m high (GS)
1.7m wide
1.9tonnes (GS un laden)
C303
4.4m long
2.3m high (Hard Top)
1.9m wide
2.4tonnes (HT un laden
C303 engine is the low compression B30 IL6, which has 130bhp,
not sure how much torque but it is very tuneable and all parts
are available
But the vehicle is rarer than a 101....
#Post#: 72078--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: pesto
Date: August 25, 2013, 3:09 pm
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I'm back again with some thougths.
I read about diff pegging on the Ashcroft web site. They are
explaining how to strengthen a Rover axle. Could that be an
alternative to the Salisbury axle? As mentioned - the main
purpose is to create a reliable travel motor. As so far I've
never had problems with my Rover axel but would like to avoid
problems on an overland trip.
#Post#: 72122--------------------------------------------------
Re: bomb-proof
DIR By: espacekiller
Date: August 26, 2013, 9:26 am
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I would probably just check over what you have, check for play
in the splines on the drive shafts, drive flanges etc, check
wheel bearings, then carry spares if you are worried, it is all
simple to work and spares are not too hard to find for standard
series motors. The issue is if you fit something more
specialised or rare the spares are harder to locate in the
middle of nowhere.
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