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       Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: mistericeman
       Date: April 23, 2013, 9:45 am
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       On our journey up to the Outer Hebrides on Sunday we had a very
       nice drive along the shoreline of loch Long ...unsurprisingly a
       very long Loch, Apparently ideal for the testing of torpedos by
       the admiralty.
       Leading to the construction of a facility on the inland end of
       the loch in 1912 ...AND firing something of the region of 12,000
       torpedos in 1944 alone .
       Sadly it closed down in 1986 and was vandalised shortly
       afterwards including being set on fire ...Planning has just been
       granted at the start of this year for the remains to be
       demolished and replaced with a state of the art leisure resort,
       I've wanted to see this place for some time and looks like i
       just caught it in the nick of time ...though a shadow of it's
       former self .
       Some more info courtesy of T'interweb
       "The former torpedo testing facility at the head of Loch Long.
       It was decommissioned in 1980 (sic) and, as of 2006, is lying
       empty. Torpedoes were fired up Loch Long from tubes in the two
       spaces in the photograph without the cross-bracing. A boat stood
       by to recover the (unarmed) torpedoes where they were returned
       for analysis. The shed to the right and the main part of the
       building have tracks where torpedoes were stored and worked on.
       Hoists on the first floor lowered the torpedoes into the tubes.
       The control room at the top looking straight down the loch
       housed a camera. Behind the control room, above the loading
       shed, is office accommodation. The rest of the facility included
       housing and workshops but these have been sold off. (Photograph
       taken from a boat).
       Test firing was carried out from submarines, from torpedo tubes
       built beneath the pier of the test facility, or from a modified
       vessel, similar to a Clyde Puffer, equipped with two underwater
       torpedo tubes fitted beneath the bow. This vessel, believed to
       be the MV Sarepta, is said have been built in Germany and been
       taken from there either during, or after, World War II. When not
       in use, this vessel was moored off the Gamble Steps in Gourock,
       near the present day ferry terminal and pier.
       A line of floating targets was moored in the loch, in line with
       the pier, forming a series of observation platforms. Torpedoes
       under test were intended to run under these targets, rather than
       strike them, to check that they were running straight and true.
       Testing is said to have included wire-guided torpedoes which
       spooled out a control wire as they ran, but locals tell of
       regular misses, and of test subjects occasionally leaving the
       water. It is clear that some test samples were lost or
       abandoned, as the rusting remains of a battery powered torpedo
       lay on the shore south of Ardgarten for many years.
       Torpedoes under test were constructed without warheads, and
       designed to float to the surface on completion of their test
       run. Recovery is said to have been by an ex-RAF rescue craft,
       the Fulmar, which had a low freeboard (the distance from the
       waterline to the upper deck level, measured at the lowest point
       where water can enter) which made the operation easier. During
       the period 1945-1946, several launches designated TRV (Torpedo
       Recovery Vessel) were moored in the vicinity of the pier.
       Testing ended after an explosion at another range, involving the
       same torpedo type then being evaluated at Loch Long, but was not
       the sole reason for the range's closure. The range, together
       with its surroundings, was best suited to straight-running,
       shallow depth torpedoes, and the increasing use of more advanced
       designs, capable of running deeper, and using wire guidance to
       home in on a target, meant it was no longer able to test the
       latest designs, and was closed.
       The remains of three cottages can be found to the west of the
       road leading to main buildings, and are based on a wooden frame
       with metal cladding. Believed to date from the 1940s, these were
       probably used by staff employed at the station.
       Torpedo testing was also carried out in the large water tank
       facilities of the Admiralty Research Laboratory, in nearby Glen
       Fruin.
       The range was also used to set up or range torpedoes fired from
       vessels such as destroyers. One such vessel was HMS Zambesi, one
       of eight Z-Class destroyers constructed during World War II, and
       which which visited the range for this purpose in 1944, prior to
       joining the home fleet at Scapa Flow following completion of
       commissioning. Trials would have established the setting for the
       fins on her torpedoes to ensure they ran straight and true. Two
       quad tubes on the destroyer each carried four 21-inch torpedoes,
       and could be turned to be released the weapons from either side
       of the vessel. On the range, the warheads would be removed, and
       replaced by an orange coloured buoyancy head of identical size,
       after which the torpedoes could then be fired along the range,
       recovered, and adjustments made to trim their course."
       And some piccies ....
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       Note the narrow gauge track that small trucks carrying the
       torpedos were pushed along  :smilewide:
       #Post#: 58313--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: Arjan
       Date: April 23, 2013, 9:56 am
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       :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
       #Post#: 58321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: hippydave
       Date: April 23, 2013, 10:57 am
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       fished Loch Long a fair few times but never caught a torpedo.
       #Post#: 58342--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: prof-pat-pending
       Date: April 23, 2013, 1:05 pm
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       i am glad someone else has noticed how many interesting and
       indeed 'awesome' places there are in scotland -
       there is a lot of hidden history up there and well worth a visit
       :smilewide:
       mmm.... i did try to mention that
       earlier........................
       #Post#: 58347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: mistericeman
       Date: April 23, 2013, 1:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: prof-pat-pending link ---
       >
       > i am glad someone else has noticed how many interesting and
       indeed 'awesome' places there are in scotland -
       > there is a lot of hidden history up there and well worth a
       visit  :smilewide:
       >
       > mmm.... i did try to mention that
       earlier........................
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well Aware Prof ....just a bit on the far side for most i reckon
       ...Not sure we would have visited just for the day other than
       Tracey's work  ;-)
       #Post#: 58597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: stevej
       Date: April 25, 2013, 5:38 am
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       Looks an interesting place to photograph a Series Landy.
       #Post#: 58599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Torpedo testing range Arrochar Loch long 
   DIR By: 1960SeriesII
       Date: April 25, 2013, 6:14 am
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       Great photos, it's a pity that most of these industrial
       locations with an interesting bit of history vanish underneath
       office/apartment buildings without anyone thinking how to
       incorporate at least some of them into the concept.
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