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       #Post#: 52117--------------------------------------------------
       S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: NiteMare
       Date: February 17, 2013, 10:20 pm
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       ok as stated, it's damned noisy in reverse gear and luckily it's
       not mine, it's a knocking/clicking type noise
       it may be capable of surviving it for quite some years or it
       might go bang tomorrow, i've no idea, i've also no idea of the
       suffix i just know it's fitted in a tax exempt S3 so "could" be
       the original but might not be
       so i'm just curious as to what folks suggestions would be the
       cause should i end up conscripted into sorting it out if it all
       goes pear shaped
       #Post#: 52118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: Albert Ross
       Date: February 17, 2013, 11:26 pm
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       Chech handbrake linkage and adjustment before pulling the box.
       Drop the rear prop off to listen for odd noises while underneath
       ( unless it can be heard in transfer neutral, which then points
       squarely at the main box)
       #Post#: 52121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: FenTiger
       Date: February 18, 2013, 3:28 am
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       If it is tax exempt, then chances are it is an A suffix. 1st an
       reverse are made of cheese and were changed on later boxes. The
       case hardening wears off and pretty soon big chunks start
       falling off the gears. This is probs causing the noise you are
       hearing.
       #Post#: 52122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: Parn
       Date: February 18, 2013, 3:42 am
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       My understanding of the situation is the reverse gear on a
       series 3 was the first "reverse alarm" they later developed into
       the "beep beep" alarm that is fitted to commercial vehicles.
       rofl
       #Post#: 52161--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: estwdjhn
       Date: February 18, 2013, 2:33 pm
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       Toby has it I think, although in my experience suffix B boxes
       suffer from the same thing too. (IIRC The fault on the suffix
       A's that got fixed at suffix B was to do with the reverse idler
       seizing onto it's shaft if you reversed long distances)
       I would suggest if it's only used gently in reverse, it may last
       some time - if used "vigorously" it probably has weeks to live.
       I had one go, it got noisier and noisier, and one day it went
       bang and all the teeth ripped off.
       You will probably find if you open it up the layshaft reverse
       teeth a knackered as well as the idler - certainly they have
       been in boxes I've examined...
       #Post#: 52166--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: Albert Ross
       Date: February 18, 2013, 2:54 pm
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       Unless the reverse shaft stop on the back of the top of the
       transfer care has become maladjusted, and the gear is travelling
       too far, therefore catching the casing internally?
       #Post#: 52299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S3 box reverse gear noise
   DIR By: NiteMare
       Date: February 19, 2013, 3:16 pm
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       Cheers folks  :thumbs:
       i'll not mention anything to the owner i'll let him decide as
       and when he thinks something needs doing, i know he'll be gentle
       on it anyway as i'm struggling to get him to come laning at all
       even on nice clean non scratchy lanes
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