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#Post#: 50681--------------------------------------------------
fire engine
DIR By: feelinperky
Date: February 2, 2013, 11:11 am
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If a land rover on the v5 is classed as a fire engine, free tax
and mot exempt is it legal to drive it as such on a daily basis
assuming it has all the equipment etc? what would not reclass it
as a fire engine???? :smilewide:
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: Eltel
Date: February 2, 2013, 11:19 am
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I should imagine it would have to be in service to qualify ?
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: feelinperky
Date: February 2, 2013, 11:23 am
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interesting, cos that was my thoughts but it will state all that
on the v5.....surely it would have been changed when it was
released?? ???
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: NoelC
Date: February 2, 2013, 11:32 am
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If you have a look at the link here:
HTML http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2011%20-%20Apr%202001.pdf
HTML http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2011%20-%20Apr%202001.pdf
This question was asked and the reply was as follows:
--- Quote ---
> Now to the more important issue of whether or not this vehicle
requires a test. Well, although you have included a lot of
information there is one vital part missing to give you a
definite answer – the design gross weight (DGW).
>
> Consequently, the following applies:
>
> ● If this fire engine has a DGW in excess of 3500kg it
falls under the Goods Vehicle (Plating & Testing) Regulations
1988 and is exempt from annual test.
>
> ● If it has a DGW of 3500kg or less then it falls under
the Motor Vehicle (Tests) Regulations 1981. Because these
regulations have no exemption for fire appliances, the vehicle
would require an MOT test.
--- End Quote ---
As the vast majority of Land Rovers have a DGW under 3500kg they
must be tested going on the above. My guess is when "on the run"
the Fire Brigades are covered by an exemption the same as the
Police, I presume ambulances don't get tested either when
operated by the relevant authority.
#Post#: 50695--------------------------------------------------
Re: fire engine
DIR By: Eltel
Date: February 2, 2013, 11:42 am
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May be worth popping into your local Vosa station if you have
one close by, I popped into mine a few weeks back to enquire
about some parts on a kit car I am building and the tester was
very helpfully
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: feelinperky
Date: February 2, 2013, 11:44 am
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right so a 1970 s2 109 fire tender would require one.
was looking at this but the guy wants it to go to someone who is
going to show is....................... :gay:
HTML http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C361664
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: NoelC
Date: February 2, 2013, 12:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Eltel link ---
>
> May be worth popping into your local Vosa station if you have
one close by, I popped into mine a few weeks back to enquire
about some parts on a kit car I am building and the tester was
very helpfully
>
--- End Quote ---
The trouble is with this you can get a number of different
answers from different testers. Ask me how I know. ;-) For a
definitive answer always e-mail VOSA technical. You're far more
likely to get the right answer AND have written evidence of it
should it ever be needed.
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: NoelC
Date: February 2, 2013, 12:35 pm
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--- Quote from: feelinperky link ---
>
> right so a 1970 s2 109 fire tender would require one.
> was looking at this but the guy wants it to go to someone who
is going to show is....................... :gay:
>
HTML http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C361664
>
--- End Quote ---
I would say it does. The trouble is VOSA and the DVLA don't
communicate. My suspicion is the DVLA proceed on the basis
anything in the taxation class FIRE ENGINE is MOT exempt. My
suspicion is nothing under 3500kg should be in that class, at
least not post-1981. I have a copy of FMWs old log book and when
that was new it was taxation class FIRE ENGINE but it wasn't
one. Just a 109 hardtop used by Wiltshire Fire Brigade.
#Post#: 50715--------------------------------------------------
Re: fire engine
DIR By: feelinperky
Date: February 2, 2013, 12:39 pm
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Yes it seems a grey area. Maybe it would be a case of get one
anyway! :thumbs:
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Re: fire engine
DIR By: Eltel
Date: February 2, 2013, 12:42 pm
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It's probably best to get it tested just to be on the safe side
due to its age
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