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       #Post#: 38087--------------------------------------------------
       Heater plugs
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: September 24, 2012, 2:01 pm
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       As I'm a complete spaktard when it comes to electrical stuff
       does anyone have a diagram for dummies for wiring up heater
       plugs on both a 2.25d and a 200tdi?
       Cheers.
       #Post#: 38107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: BenzR over
       Date: September 24, 2012, 4:17 pm
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       Hi Luke,
       Are you wanting to use the proper glow plug relay, or is this a
       wire to a big button job?
       I aint no expert, but for what it's worth, we have two 200tdi'd
       series II's, (that's a lot of 2's?) both of which are wired,
       however, have never needed the glow plugs, even on the frostiest
       of mornings?
       #Post#: 38111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: September 24, 2012, 4:57 pm
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       I'm not sure about the proper relay  :-\
       I probably just need a simple wire to a button.
       The 2.25 takes a lot of turning over to get it going and on a
       cold morning it's not that good, I think the plugs will help it
       immensely.
       The 200tdi was good but is now shit.  SH><.
       On another note, will the 2.25d bleed it's own fuel system
       without cracking an injector or summat? It seems a bit like the
       fuel is maybe draining back to the tank when left for a while,
       say over night, and it's having to pump it back up before it
       starts,
       #Post#: 38126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: Jon
       Date: September 25, 2012, 5:50 am
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       Do they no wire to the starter switch? mine may not be standard,
       but if i turn the key right it turns over the engine, turn it
       left 1st stage it holds the glow plugs 2nd stage turns the motor
       over.
       If I hold the glows on for 30sec then turn it over it starts
       right up.
       mines a 2.25d
       #Post#: 38135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: BenzR over
       Date: September 25, 2012, 7:04 am
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       Sorry, you'll get a sore neck reading this, but I don't know how
       to turn it around
       This is how I've done mine, but can sketch the full key and
       relay system if you want to go down that road?
       Ken.
       #Post#: 38153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: September 25, 2012, 11:56 am
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       Spot on Ken!  :thumbs: thank you very much!
       drink(*&
       #Post#: 38172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: September 25, 2012, 1:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Luke link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > On another note, will the 2.25d bleed it's own fuel system
       without cracking an injector or summat? It seems a bit like the
       fuel is maybe draining back to the tank when left for a while,
       say over night, and it's having to pump it back up before it
       starts,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No. 2.25s will not self-bleed. ISTR RichP going on about this
       problem ages ago. Evidently he didn't fix it and that's why he
       sold the motor.
       #Post#: 38175--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: NUGGETT
       Date: September 25, 2012, 2:09 pm
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       ^^ Agree.
       You can check the lift pump is working ok by a simple method,
       and the dizzy pump can be sorted quite easily with new seals
       etc, afetr that any lack of maintaining fuel at the jector ought
       to be down to a pipe letting air in somewhere whether through an
       'ole or bad connection.
       Mine is running like an absolute cock at the moment but it
       always starts.............
       Lift pump check:
       Immerse pump in a bah of parrafin and operate rocker arm several
       times .
       Hold up clear of bath and continue to operate rocker arm until
       the pump is empty, then place a finger over the inlet port and
       operate rocker lever several times. A distinct suction should be
       heard whe nthe finger is removed from the inlet port denoting
       that a reasonable degree of suction has developed.
       Place a finger over the outlet port and again operate the rocker
       arm. Air pressure should be felt for 2 to 3 seconds after rocker
       movement has ceased. Build up the air pressure in the pump again
       and with the finger held firmly over the outlet port submerge
       the pump completely in the parrafin bath and observe the joint
       faces for signs of air leakage..............................
       Written for REME is suspect!  ;D
       #Post#: 38180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: September 25, 2012, 2:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Luke link=topic=3494.msg38111#msg38111
       date=1348523836]
       >
       >
       > On another note, will the 2.25d bleed it's own fuel system
       without cracking an injector or summat? It seems a bit like the
       fuel is maybe draining back to the tank when left for a while,
       say over night, and it's having to pump it back up before it
       starts,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No. 2.25s will not self-bleed. ISTR RichP going on about this
       problem ages ago. Evidently he didn't fix it and that's why he
       sold the motor.
       [/quote]
       :wanker:
       So If it won't bleed itself then it can't be letting air in can
       it? 'cos when it starts it's totally fine.
       Would a dodgy lift pump give these symptoms?     Surely the lift
       pump is ok as it runs normal once going :-\
       #Post#: 38196--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Heater plugs
   DIR By: NUGGETT
       Date: September 25, 2012, 4:05 pm
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       I could be wrong but the lift pump 'lifts' more than is
       required, hence the tank return??
       As I said I could be wrong, someone normally puts me right ;D
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