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#Post#: 37477--------------------------------------------------
Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: FenTiger
Date: September 18, 2012, 8:33 am
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I have now had the stagey on the road for a while and am getting
utterly fucked off with the front brakes. It has had new
cylinders, and shoes. All was well to start with, but it has now
developed a pulsating pedal. Upon closer inspection it would
appear that the drums are a little warped, and as they appear to
be made from unobtainium, I am struggling to replace them.
Furthermore the only shoes I can find are Britpart.
:smiley-furious: Not a prblem if they were actually well made
and were lined with a decent compound, but the compound has
started cracking and it is only a matter of time before they
fail completely. Also the sixpot / stagey front brakes are a
bitch to set up, with 4 adjusters per wheel (2 for brake adjust,
2 to square shoe to drum). As most will know, I am by no means a
mechanical numpty, but faced with a poor quality and
unobtainable parts, I am getting rather frustrated.
I am scaling down the Fen fleet with a view to having just a
couple of well sorted leafers that I can happily jump in and
drive without worry for mine and my family's welfare, be it to
the end of the road or across Europe.
To this end , I have been investigating the disk brake
conversions available.
The Heystee one is 1100 euros and will be a fair chunk in
postage to UK and possible taxes. The heystee kit requires the
swivel housing to be changed too. Kit uses standard defender
pads and disks.
The Zeus engineering kit is £722 inc Vat and delivery and uses
an off the shelf pad (E type Jag / Aston / Austin / Morris from
memory). This kit does not require swivels to be changed, but
does required bigger offset wheels (already sorted for ;D).
Sooooo...... Does anyone have experience with either of these
kits. How good are they? Well made / easy to fit? Also, is there
a noticeable improvement in braking.
A fully laden Stage 1 SW takes some stopping from motorway
speeds and I value my precious cargo.
(Stands back, and awaits the torrent of abuse....)
#Post#: 37479--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: muckypup
Date: September 18, 2012, 9:04 am
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Although I have a set of Zues on the front and Heystee on the
back I couldn't give you a decent answer because I can't
remember what it was like when I had drums on all corners. TBH
braking on mine isn't great but I'm sure that's because I need a
new servo. One thing, they are a doddle to maintain and don't
fill up with shit.
Stig's your man for the best answer.
#Post#: 37486--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: big-chris
Date: September 18, 2012, 10:26 am
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As you have already tarnished the thread with gay-ism :2mo5pow:
I now feel free to type (as long as nobody is looking) when I
drove my mates early 110 with disk front and drum rear and tdi
fitted it pulled up very well from 60mph+ with the back full of
logs too, disks may be looked upon as a little :gay: but if
series motors were still being made today they would have disk
brakes and may even be tdi, it's called progression and if it's
making your truck usable and safe then I'm all for it :thumbs:
I run standard 11" drums on the LWB and don't really have any
issues, but I understand the option of buying quality shoes is
easier :-?
I feel all dirty now :-*
Although I was outbid once on ebay @ £650 for two complete sets
of disk brake set ups :popcorn:
#Post#: 37489--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: Lucy
Date: September 18, 2012, 10:46 am
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HTML http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/land-rover-series-axles-with-v8-straight-6-front-brakes-/251150665712?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a79bf07f0
not on topic but still.
#Post#: 37490--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: mr.scruff
Date: September 18, 2012, 10:53 am
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> but if series motors were still being made today they would
have disk brakes.... it's called progression and if it's making
your truck usable and safe then I'm all for it
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Yeah, I agree. After all Santanas had them while Land Rover GB
pumping out Series IIIs and being bum-raped by British Leyland's
car division. It's not exactly an in your face mod either is it?
I have driven a few disc braked ones through work and without
exception they have been superb. Just like a well set-up
boinger.
Stig's getting pissed on French wine at Drew's but I'm sure when
he's back he will give chapter and verse on his Heystee's.
#Post#: 37492--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: FenTiger
Date: September 18, 2012, 11:09 am
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--- Quote from: Lucy link ---
>
>
HTML http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/land-rover-series-axles-with-v8-straight-6-front-brakes-/251150665712?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a79bf07f0
> not on topic but still.
>
--- End Quote ---
Listing reads: "No longer needed as fitting disco axles" - I
wonder why.....
Cheers Kev,
That was my feeling, but cant beat experience!
Will see what Stig has to say when he gets back. Would imagine
it will be a few days before he is making any sense. drink(*&
#Post#: 37493--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: scruffytruck
Date: September 18, 2012, 11:24 am
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--- Quote from: mr.scruff link ---
>
> Yeah, I agree. After all Santanas had them while Land Rover GB
pumping out Series IIIs and being bum-raped by British Leyland's
car division. It's not exactly an in your face mod either is it?
I have driven a few disc braked ones through work and without
exception they have been superb. Just like a well set-up
boinger.
>
--- End Quote ---
I heard from somewhere that currently escapes me that the entire
Santana system is a fairly simple bolt on conversion.... maybe a
nice OLLR Kultur trip to Barcelona for Sangria, Spanish
scrapyards and Gaudi :) .....
#Post#: 37497--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: TrueS2
Date: September 18, 2012, 12:43 pm
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Why don't you just take some boingy axles or swivels incl the
disks?
Regards
Trues2
#Post#: 37500--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: Doug_T
Date: September 18, 2012, 1:28 pm
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Watch out with the "bigger offset wheels" trap, as the bits that
catch are actually the edges of the vent holes in the centre of
the wheel. In other words using a greater offset standard
Series pressed steel rim will still lead to a clash, as the
centres still sit in the same place on the hubs (wrapping round
the brake drum). I thought that 130 rims would be ok, but alas
they fouled my calipers even more than standard LWB ones, as the
steel they were constructed of was thicker. Granted my brakes
were the mark 2 sliding caliper Santana variety, but there's
still a limited amount of space with the standard series swivel
housing to get a caliper in there.
#Post#: 37502--------------------------------------------------
Re: Purile and vacuous brakes - Worth it ?
DIR By: Albert Ross
Date: September 18, 2012, 1:43 pm
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Some wide rims (204s come to mind) have shallower hubs, and they
might clear the disc set up. In the Interim Tobes, I have 4
shagged, rivetted type front shoes, suitable for refurb if you
need them.
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