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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Landyphil Date: January 14, 2013, 12:36 pm
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A brief update.
Cold cranking:
Cylinder 1: 152psi
Cylinder 2: 150psi
Cylinder 3: 155psi
Cylinder 4: 155psi
Now that's more like it!!! :giddy: :giddy: :giddy:
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: AlexB Date: January 14, 2013, 12:47 pm
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great stuff phil
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Calum Date: January 14, 2013, 2:17 pm
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Result!
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Landyphil Date: February 10, 2013, 5:56 am
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Been very busy of late with work/ other motors but the important
bit of news:
IT'S ALIVE! :giddy: :giddy: :giddy:
Sounds much better as well.
Compression while cold still the same and more than acceptable.
But compression at running temp as per manual is still comically
low....however I'm beginning to think I'll ignore that reading.
For the simple reason that the reading on the same cylinder can
vary as much as 70psi within 20 seconds of each other. :-?
Methinks when warm the compression tester isn't sealing
properly.
Going to retorque the head now it's been warm once reset all the
tappets again and then start to set up all the fueling again.
Hopefully it'll be back on the road soon.
And now I think it's time to spout forth the very much
aspirational plan. :rolleye0012:
We might be giving up historic rallying for the foreseeable:
I want to have a go at breaking a bit of a record. It might take
many many years if not at all but if you don't try....
So on the 15th of June I'll be donning the full race suit and
(providing the Scrutineers have a sense of adventure) will be
racing up Barbon hillclimb against the Porche's/ Caterhams etc
as fast as that tired old engine will carry me. >rock<
:haha:
Obviously I'll be coming last but as long as I finish that's
what matters.
When I first met Adrian and his racer (in fact many years before
it became mine) I'd seen it switch to stage rallying and thought
it would be quite amusing to do as varied amount of motorsport
events as possible. As times gone on and rules have changed it
dawned on me that now more than ever it's difficult to have one
vehicle that could at least enter if not be competative at many
many disiplines. There's roughly 30 different motorsport permits
under the MSA banner.
To attempt to even get close to doing them all it's going to be
a 4x4 for the offroad events such as trials and hillrallies/
comp safari's. A 2wd buggy could do some of the speed events
offroad wise but then how many 2wd buggies would get a Stage
Rally Logbook or be allowed on a production car autotest?
So really you need a production 4x4 of some sort. But then to
sign onto the historic permits it needs to be pre 1981 really
pre Dec 1974.
To make it easier to sign onto a modern road rally permit
something with a normally aspirated 4 pot as well.
Couple that with the very small number of pre 1974 4x4's that
have a Stage log book and given that V8's are now a no no for
getting a stage logbook it rules out the early Range Rover and
Series Landy's like many 4x4's of the day were homologated as
commercial vehicles.
Once again it's difficult to logbook a commercial motor but the
racer slipped through and having already done the stage rallying
thing which is fortunate as that's one of the more expensive
events ticked off!
The list in my mind would be this:
Offroad:
Multi Venue Hillrally - Done Various - GKN Scottish/Welsh/Tour
of Lincs
Single Venue - Hillrally
Comp Safari - Done Various
Cross Country Trial (MSA don't differentiate
RTV/CCV...fortunately!) - Done CROC events such as an RTV at
Seatle.
Tyro Trial
Point to Point (rare as hens teeth...died out?)
Challenge/Punch event
Timed Trial (still going in the North East just)
Rallying:
Forest Stage Rally - Done Various - Malcolm Wilson/ Grizedale
Stages/ Lion Stages
Tarmac Stage Rally
Single Venue / Multi use Forest Rally
Single Venue / Multi use Tarmac Rally
Road Rally
Historic Road Rally with Tests - Done - Devils/ Lakes Classic /
Solway Historic
Targa Rally (new for 2013)
Navigational Rally
Scatter Rally
Economy Rally (ha ha!)
12 Car Rally
Sporting:
Hillclimb (Hence Barbon)
Sprint
AutoSolo
Autotest
Production Car Autotest
Gymkhana - Done - The War of the Roses
Autocross
Rallycross (errr could be challenging that)
Drag Race (Comedy)
Production Car Trial....if I'm allowed.
And finally a circuit race but not sure how I'll manage that
one.
So a big list with a few expensive ones ticked off. Could take
years to do some of the expensive events but there's plenty that
can be done cheaply. Plan is to just to quietly tick them off.
So that's the future plan for the racer. To complete as many
different types of motorsport as possible and possible make some
sort of unofficial UK record.
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: feelinperky Date: February 10, 2013, 1:08 pm
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That sounds like a lot of work but good fun! be awesome to hold
a record! >rock<
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Dengieboy Date: February 18, 2013, 4:08 pm
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Wow Phil, that's a lot of different racing there.
Like you say, its hard these days for one vehicle to be eligible
to enter so many different types of racing, so if you've got the
motor to do it then go for it! Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Landyphil Date: February 21, 2013, 12:13 am
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Well for the first time since the end of October the racer came
out into the sunlight (it really was sunny! :eek:) and I spent
an annoying hour trying to set the fueling up. Tickover easily
sorted. (choke cable jammed then snapped...will have to splash
out on a new one!).
But it was running rich.
I turned down the main power valve.
Still rich
I turned down the ratio on the mixer.
Still rich
I turned them both pretty much fully in. :-? To the point you'd
think it was running on air.
Mixture right!
It would seem with the valves not leaking it needs much much
less fuel! Once warm it's a lot quieter, smoother and pulls
better as well. Hope it stays like this!
Oh and painted and finished the bumper mounted timing beam
cutter.... ;-)
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Landyphil Date: March 14, 2013, 12:10 pm
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Engine still sounds odd but will be giving it a go on The Devils
Own Rally this Sunday
Here we go again!
Car No Driver Navigator Car Class Car Class
1 Paul Wignall Jayne Wignall Porsche 911 Expert Historic
2 Ross Butterworth TBC Ford Escort Expert Historic
3 David Marsden Mike Garstang Ford Cortina GT Expert Historic
4 Tot Dixon Maureen Dixon Morris Mini Expert Historic
5 Ian Curwen Gareth Williams Ford Escort Expert Historic
6 Tony Harrison Ayrton Harrison Proton Satria Expert Modern
7 Tom Wilcox Pete Johnson Toyota Starlet Expert Modern
8 Steve Entwistle Bob Hargreaves Austin Mini Cooper Expert
Historic
9 David Agnew Graeme Mactavish Porsche 911 Expert Historic
10 Tony Tomlinson Andrew Makinson Talbot Sunbeam Lotus Expert
Classic
11 Steve Mitchell Ian Mitchell Peugeot 205 Expert Modern
12 Peter Birtles Richard Goodacre Volvo Amazon Expert Historic
14 Paul Brereton Maurice Ellison Ford Escort Semi Historic
15 Graeme Cornthwaite Steve Aspin Morris Mini Semi Historic
16 David Alexander Stephen Perry Vauxhall Viva HB Semi Classic
17 Dave Whitaker TBC Nissan Sunny GTI Semi Modern
18 Mark Burton John Burton MG Midget Semi Historic
19 Chas Stansfield Martin Harwood Triumph TR3A Semi Historic
20 Stephen Byrne David Byrne Lancia Fulvia Semi Historic
21 Phil Griffiths James Clewer Landrover Semi Historic
22 Jon Hill Michael Pears Vauxhall Corsa Semi Modern
23 David Winter Sally Winter Ford Fiesta Semi Modern
24 Simon Farrar Dean Philips Ford Puma Semi Modern
25 Scott Wragg John Coulson Proton Satria GTI Semi Modern
26 George Eland Ian Eland Alfa Romeo GTV Semi Historic
27 Tom Vipond Chris Woods Peugeot 206 GTI Novice Modern
28 Brian Bradley Paul Makinson Mini Novice Classic
29 Geoff Fletcher Keith Fletcher Vauxhall Corsa Novice Modern
30 Robert Iveson Les Golding Peugeot 205 Novice Modern
31 John Howarth Joe Jazmik Jaguar XK150 Novice Historic
32 Steve Wright Jonathan Riseborough Ford Escort Novice Classic
33 Chris Wright TBC Mazda MX5 Novice Modern
34 Jon Stynes Kieron Stynes Rover Mini Novice Modern
35 Sean Bramhall Phill Gough Austin Healey 100-6mm Novice
Historic
38 Nathan Darbyshire Jonathon Ashworth Mazda MX5 Novice Modern
36 Danny Cowell TBC Ford Escort Modern
37 Steve Palmer Jack Palmer Ford Fiesta Tourer Modern
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Arjan Date: March 14, 2013, 4:14 pm
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Awesome story :thumbs:
Many thanks - keep it coming please :giddy:
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Re: 88" Rally Car story updated
By: Landyphil Date: March 22, 2013, 4:03 pm
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The Devils…..
The Devils Own Rally is one of those rallies that’s evolved in
it’s many decades from early days as a Road Rally being won by
Tony Mason up to the days of the Motoring News and Mexico
Championship.
Now run as a Historic I’ve never got round to actually driving
on it! Sat in the silly seat but not the one with the steering
wheel!
With life in general being a bit busy I wasn’t planning to enter
it to be honest but then it came out on a Navigational Permit
and that’s one on the list of permits to be done….. so entry in!
Main difference would be that the shouting from the passenger
seat wouldn’t be my dear wife but an old friend who used to do
12 cars with us. Never sat in the landy and not been on the maps
in 10 years. Could be fun!
Week leading up to the rally I managed to get some new side
mounts for the passenger seat that bolted to the existing rails.
Seat was always “a bit Douglas Bader” in it’s mounting position.
Revalved head and reset fueling meant an average tootling round
before the event at over 20mpg!!! Ironic as there were over 4
chances on route to fill up with LPG.
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Sunday morning started cold…and white! With some excitement I
set off for the Heaves Hotel near Kendal in the snow wondering
if it would play a part in the day’s proceedings.
The line up at the Heaves was excellent with everything from
Healey 100/6’s 2x911’s as well as the usual mini’s and escorts.
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A mix up with the paperwork meant we were shuffled to later down
the order. At least that means lots of tyre marks to follow!
First test was at a farm near Burton. Tight and muddy was the
best way of describing it. Test was called out just right. Still
needing a handbrake for those tight turns though! Second one
was the only true tarmac test of the day! The finish was on a
long "Vehicle of inferior length" right and for some reason the
marshal’s seemed to back away as the landy ducked and dived
under braking towards the line.
After that it was regularity time. We lined up north of Kirkby
Lonsdale on a quiet road and we let a few cars go in front
(mistake!). I knew this section contained forestry but thinking
it’s just a 30mph regularity job should be fine.
Made it to the first control pretty much spot only dropping 4
seconds. But shortly after that caught our minute man…and then
another…and then another…and then another!!! God knows what had
happened to the guy 4 minutes ahead of us but if I was minutes
down I’d have had it absolutely lit.
Once we got into the forest the presence of a Land Rover grill
in the rear view mirror seemed to work and we started getting
past giving us time to start putting a bit of pace on but still
arrived at the end stuck in traffic. About 39 seconds lost!
Second run through the woods was a very different affair. The
little group were were in pulled over and let the landy line up
first. Yellow knob down. Roll it forward and wait for the
minute to come up. Lifted the clutch and buried the throttle.
30mph through the woods might seem easy but with controls to
stop and get signatures for as well as the fact the snow had
melted leaving the gravel very loose meant keeping it a quick as
poss.
Poor old landy isn’t exactly quick up the hills but as soon as
it flattens out or downhill then flat out! In 4wd turn in on
gravel at speed can be very 50/50. With no centre diff it’s
either understeer or oversteer, The former being the axis of
evil which could end in the scenery the latter being the way.
I erred on the side of caution and either dropped a gear or gave
a bit of a dab to get the weight forward and get it turned in
with a touch of oversteer. Must have worked as we only dropped
17seconds. 10th quickest overall!
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Slid up the final control all 4 wheels locked to be commended by
the marshal, apparently some crews that were dropping time like
us were just tootling up the final control. Weird.
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The trip north meant sleet and snow began to fall but sadly not
stick. Two tests runs twice up at Hardendale Quarry was great
but oh so tight for the landy. And oh so cold parked up
waiting!
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Did it second time in rear wheel drive and had to slow things
down into the tight stuff and get it booted round on the
“power”. Still wasn’t enough at times but some of the gravel
piles proved surprisingly handy for widening the route……
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A long cold drive down the A6 back to Kendal meant another twice
run test through a farm. Mix of tarmac and mud on concrete was
short but sweet!
Back at the hotel over a nice Roast Beef dinner it turned out
the first regularity had been annulled which was a great shame
as it was have punted us up the results a bit.
Either way seeded 21st. Came 21st! Had the first regularity
stood maybe 17th or something like that.
A cracking set of tests read superbly by the chap in the
passenger seat and a great atmosphere despite the cold weather.
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Next event should be much warmer if things go to plan.
And I’ll be needing this:
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