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       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: Landyphil
       Date: May 27, 2012, 2:46 am
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       Good stuff there. It would inevitably be an 88" as that's me but
       lowering it..... Errr.  :eek:
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       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: Lucy
       Date: May 27, 2012, 2:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Dave link ---
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       > I think it's now at terminal velocity and the brakes have
       failed.
       >
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       I like your thinking there Dave, some kind of KERRs on it could
       help
       #Post#: 24673--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: May 28, 2012, 2:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Landyphil link ---
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       > So 50miles a day over a mix of winding A roads and rough fell
       roads.
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       Engine out, fuel tanks out, electric motor and a shed load of
       batteries, there are a couple that have been done like this in
       the US and IIRC the range is more than your 50 miles per day.
       Charge up overnight on cheap rate electricity and Bob's your
       uncle.
       #Post#: 24714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: Landyphil
       Date: May 28, 2012, 11:05 am
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       It had crossed my mind Doug!  I hope I know more about
       electrickery than this mechanical stuff after all.
       It's the price of the batteries that baulks a bit. What about 2
       motors one strapped to each diff? Unsprung weight would be an
       arse but still.
       #Post#: 24731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: NiteMare
       Date: May 28, 2012, 1:35 pm
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       someone somewhere has already stuffed a 2litre tomcat (i think
       that was the engine) matched to a lt77 into an 88" Series (might
       have been a forum member)
       might be worth hunting him down to see if he tried any economy
       runs
       as already suggested reduce it to 2wheel drive and you'll lose
       the weight of the transfer box, front diff and associated
       gubbins
       i'd suggest a truck cab and load cover as being a reasonable
       combination i did make a frame up and carried my spare
       horizontally on it under the load cover leaving the load bed
       empty, my 3/4 tilt has increased the drag on my 88" but it is
       tatty and very flappy
       200tdi with disco diffs, 7.50 tyres and overdrive used to see me
       regularly hit 35-36 to the gallon on a run, as already said the
       prima is reckoned to hit 40mpg in an 88"
       smoothing the underside of the engine/gearbox bay might help to
       improve things
       or you could always get the kids in the back operating
       treadmills to power it, a bit like mouse wheels but kid sized
       #Post#: 24761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: May 28, 2012, 2:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Landyphil link ---
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       > It had crossed my mind Doug!  I hope I know more about
       electrickery than this mechanical stuff after all.
       >
       > It's the price of the batteries that baulks a bit. What about
       2 motors one strapped to each diff? Unsprung weight would be an
       arse but still.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This
  HTML http://adventure-ev.com/
       is the best one I have seen so far; yes
       those batteries that he uses must have cost a packet, BUT I'd be
       looking at the life cost of the whole thing (let's say 2000
       cycles @ 90 miles per cycle is 180000 miles - and at 50 miles
       per day that's 3600 days, or 13.8 years of working days).  To
       charge it fully would cost between £6 and £7 at current energy
       prices (roughly the same as a proper gallon of petrol), which I
       think means to run it would be costing you the equivalent of 90
       mpg.  Oh and that one in my link is still a proper 4 wheel drive
       88"  ;-)
       #Post#: 24768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: scruffytruck
       Date: May 28, 2012, 3:02 pm
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       I do like the idea of an electric LR, but I'm not so keen on
       being subject to a charging point how about a small diesel
       generator to recharge.
       I have a ten year old article in a comic I found the other day
       about an electric IIa and it does appeal. Of course if you want
       to go full on, then how about  a motor per wheel for the
       ultimate in traction control  :) ( I think I'm heading off
       beyond the realms of ollr again)
       Not so keen on being subject to a charging point though, so how
       about a small dedicated diesel generator on board to charge?
       #Post#: 24778--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: May 28, 2012, 3:13 pm
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       When I had the prima in the 80" that did 50mpg....
       #Post#: 24782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: ashcrroft752
       Date: May 28, 2012, 3:33 pm
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       My Prima went from Wigan to Longleat on a half tank if I
       remember that worked out at 52 mpg.
       #Post#: 26238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 50mpg on Derv/ 30mpg on LPG....possible?
   DIR By: mr.scruff
       Date: June 8, 2012, 2:21 am
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       I'm well impressed with Primas. Mine, on standard diffs with no
       overdrive and 750s is pissing past 40mpg and I worked out on the
       run back from Germany over the past two days it has done
       43-point-something; not bad when that was foot to the floor
       trying to keep up with RR-diffed and overdrived Tdis and that.
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