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       #Post#: 21955--------------------------------------------------
       leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: stevemac78
       Date: May 7, 2012, 3:15 pm
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       A friend of mine is looking to buy a 64 88" for her son as his
       first car but the insurance quotes are hideous. Can anyone
       recommend a cheap insurance company to try. I realise its not
       going to be as cheap as it is for oldies but 2 and a half grand
       is ridiculous!
       Steve.
       #Post#: 21960--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: Gadget
       Date: May 7, 2012, 3:46 pm
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       Most insurance goes on engine size so a 2.25 will go against the
       young uns  :eek:
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       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: ChrisChallis
       Date: May 7, 2012, 4:17 pm
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       NFU - at £1500 you struggle to get better, I found it more
       depends on your postcode.
       #Post#: 21983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: estwdjhn
       Date: May 8, 2012, 12:57 am
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       Speaking as someone who has just exited the 17-24 age group...
       Firstly, if you are going to insure it, it will have to be 100%
       standard. Cover for non standard vehicles driven by under 25s,
       particularly if they are only vehicles/daily drivers, is
       virtually non-existent. Unfortunately, tdi conversions are out,
       even LPG is difficult.
       NFU would only take 17-21's if they already do business with
       them or their families, they will consider 21-24's on their own
       if they have no accidents or points (IIRC they may allow 3
       points for a single speeding ticket).
       Footman James were one of the best bets for under 25's - BUT
       it's very hit and miss if they will take you (I think they have
       the largest book of 17-24s with classics, and are under pressure
       from the underwriters to reduce the size of this particular
       book).
       Insurers in general can be quite schizophrenic - I renewed last
       month, and shortly before received two letters within a day of
       each other - the first one regretted that they were unable to
       offer me a renewal quote, and informed me I would need to find
       another insurer -  the second one (sent a day later, and from
       the same firm) offered me a renewal premium of £195...
       
       #Post#: 21990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: smackitwithanammer
       Date: May 8, 2012, 4:54 am
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       I'm now 22 and found Adrian Flux the cheapest by a long shot,
       and no probs with me being under 25. Though 17 is a different
       kettle of fish.
       Paid £950 last year (21 just passed) and £530 this year. By far
       the cheapest I could find.
       #Post#: 22001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: Rich_P
       Date: May 8, 2012, 6:36 am
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       --- Quote from: estwdjhn link ---
       >
       > Footman James were one of the best bets for under 25's - BUT
       it's very hit and miss if they will take you (I think they have
       the largest book of 17-24s with classics, and are under pressure
       from the underwriters to reduce the size of this particular
       book).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The situation is that Equity Red Star, who was the under writer
       for Footman James' under 25 policies, no longer wishes to do so.
       This means a few other classic car insurers who would insure
       under 25s, who were also under written by the same company, will
       no longer be able to offer policies to under 25 year olds.  This
       combined with the postcode lottery means there are a lot of
       under 25 year olds who basically will not be able to get a
       quotation, let alone afford the insurance.
       I counted the number of companies willing to cover me a month or
       two back when all this was going on.  It came down to about
       three, maybe four, companies who were willing to quote me on my
       88.  At the moment I'm at the mercy of the Admiral group for
       insurance on a little eurobox - if the Admiral group changes its
       policies with pricing and ups it to the same as all its
       competitors, then I'll be priced off the road, literally, as all
       the others say £2,500+ for my little 1.25 Fiesta whereas the
       Admiral group are in three figures (for now anyway).
       I'm 22 by the way.
       #Post#: 22034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: Skoze
       Date: May 8, 2012, 1:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: estwdjhn link ---
       >
       > Firstly, if you are going to insure it, it will have to be
       100% standard. Cover for non standard vehicles driven by under
       25s, particularly if they are only vehicles/daily drivers, is
       virtually non-existent. Unfortunately, tdi conversions are out,
       even LPG is difficult.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not true. At 19, Adrian Flux will cover me for any land rover
       engine from a 2.0 petrol through 200TDi's to a 3.5 V8 from a
       stagey for the same price. How that works i don't know, but
       there is cover out there for modified land rovers with young
       drivers...
       Write FJ off, i was quoted £1200 6 months a go for the 80",
       phoned up again last month and they refused to let me go any
       further than my name. They're now adamant they won't take on any
       new under 25's.
       Just gotta phone around everyone buddy, Flux have been the most
       helpful out of anyone, think the quote for me fully comp was
       £1700 on my own living in a pretty shit part of essex with the
       promise of that halving next year.
       #Post#: 22070--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: Rich_P
       Date: May 8, 2012, 3:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: Skoze link ---
       >
       > Not true. At 19, Adrian Flux will cover me for any land rover
       engine from a 2.0 petrol through 200TDi's to a 3.5 V8 from a
       stagey for the same price. How that works i don't know, but
       there is cover out there for modified land rovers with young
       drivers...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess that's the postcode lottery at work then, because
       they're reluctant to even quote on my 88 and can only offer near
       on 2 grand as their best?
       #Post#: 22073--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: May 8, 2012, 3:08 pm
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       The prices you youngsters are quoting are unbelieveable. Surely
       it's cheaper to drive without insurance as the fines, should you
       get caught, are going to be less than that!
       I'm always seeing 'reports from the courts' in the local rag
       where someone's been done for driving with no insurance and they
       don't seem to get fined more than £500.
       #Post#: 22093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: leafer insurance for a 17 yr old
   DIR By: guest13
       Date: May 8, 2012, 3:39 pm
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       Also got mine with  Adrian Flux
       £850 a year (24 with no claims at that point ... so im probably
       going to get raped now  :banghead) - all mods declared, business
       use, and allot of miles
       Could have had it under £400 if Id limited it to 3000 miles with
       Lancaster
       Car is about £1k a year
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