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       #Post#: 15732--------------------------------------------------
       Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: estwdjhn
       Date: March 16, 2012, 6:28 am
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       Bitsa's had a cheap set of halogens in since 2007, and last time
       I went for an MOT the tester said they were borderline for
       reflector rust.
       Now, the MOT is fast approaching again, and I reckon I should
       stick a new set in, as I'd be well hacked off if it failed on
       anything so trivial.
       The lights currently fitted are Britpart units, and I find them
       fine lightwise, but the lifespan has been disappointing.
       Looking at Paddocks, they currently list 3 conversion kits:
       Wipac - £18.85 + VAT
       Ring, with Xenon bulbs - £22.50 + VAT
       Wipac Crystal  - £27.91 + VAT
       I'm a but undecided which way to go with this one. I do a lot of
       driving in thick night-time fog and mist at the moment (the joys
       of a 5.30AM commute over the Cat and Fiddle pass, where a good
       day seems to be where I can see two cats eyes ahead, rather than
       one), and as a result I tend to run on dip beam a lot as main
       beam reflects from the mist itself so you can see even less.
       The truck electrics has relay switching in the grill panel and a
       direct feed from the alternator to the relays, so that should
       all be pretty optimum.
       I'm tempted by the Crystals, as they are all plastic and so
       shouldn't suffer from reflector rust, but am a bit concerned
       that they will both look rather out of place on the truck, and
       that the more focused beam may make travel in mist worse rather
       than better.
       Any thoughts or experiences?
       Also, anyone know where I can get the proper mounting rings for
       holding the lights in the grill panel? It's got a bodge up with
       series 3 plastic buckets in there at the moment, but that is
       less than ideal, not least because it's near impossible to
       adjust the aim...
       #Post#: 15735--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: March 16, 2012, 6:45 am
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       I'm on my second set of Ring ones now; the first ones lasted 8
       years (lights in wings) before rusting (I think the water can
       get in in the extra hole for sidelights - the bung wasn't very
       good).  I don't use the Ring bulbs though, I have a set of
       high-power white (not gay blue/white) ones from Hellfrauds.  The
       dipped beams are more than adequate - they are better than the
       ones on SWMBO's Punto - and the main beams are really really
       bright.
       I would expect lights in the wings should suffer more from the
       rusting problems than ones in the grille.
       #Post#: 15741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: Lucy
       Date: March 16, 2012, 7:16 am
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       Cibies all the way, sooo much better than the cheep ones I had
       before.
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       #Post#: 15742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: mat777
       Date: March 16, 2012, 7:30 am
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       I've got the Rings on mine and I cant fault them - more than
       enough light to see by on dark country lanes, even on the
       standard bulbs that come with them
       #Post#: 15743--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: estwdjhn
       Date: March 16, 2012, 7:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Lucy link ---
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       > Cibies all the way, sooo much better than the cheep ones I had
       before.
       >
       >
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       What's the lifespan like? They look nice, and sound like they
       are bright enough (I don't really need more light TBH), but at
       more than twice the price of the Wipac Crystals (those prices
       I've given ^^^ are for a pair), I'd want to know that was the
       last pair of light unit I was going to need to buy for a very
       long time...
       #Post#: 15754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: Lucy
       Date: March 16, 2012, 8:28 am
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       I've had mine on for a few years now with no signs of
       deterioration, Glenn (S188) has bee running them on his
       stationwagon for a while too and really rates them.
       When i bought mine, I searched all over to try and find the best
       7" lense I could get and these were those.
       If you do a search for Cibies, I doubt you'll find any negative
       reviews (other than that theyre a bit pricey.)
       #Post#: 15755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: seriesewan
       Date: March 16, 2012, 8:49 am
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       i bought a set from craddocks ( possibly ring  but i wouldnt
       gamble on the specific make )
       cost £25 & they are more than suitabel for the job,  ( again i
       do a lot of night / fog driving & i am more than happy )
       #Post#: 15756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: rangerovering
       Date: March 16, 2012, 9:01 am
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       Wipac Cryastals and halfords top spec H4's are a really really
       good combiantion. The clear glass does make a big difference and
       these bulbs give a whiter light than the "normal" ones.
       That is of course if you aren't worried about the appearence,
       personally I value the extra seeign power more than asthetics on
       this one!
       #Post#: 15758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: Adam R
       Date: March 16, 2012, 9:28 am
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       Mine has wipac crystals and halfords H4 halogens, ive a bad
       earth somewhere as the dipped gets intermittently brighter over
       a run.
       Great in fog. Id recommend them, they don't look too bad on the
       front, or wont when I finally put the chrome headlamp rings back
       on.
       Bob by and have a peek when we sort that dipstick out if you
       like, or ill run down to you, once I've done an oil change and
       got the exhaust downpipe replaced.
       But I really rate them.
       #Post#: 15759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halogen Conversions - which one?
   DIR By: PJ
       Date: March 16, 2012, 9:43 am
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       I have wipec crystals too, again with Halfrauds H4 white
       halogens. They are very very good. There is a bit of damage on
       one of them at the bottom where I flooded it with Salisbury
       plain and then let the sediment sit for a few weeks, but it
       cleaned up really well.
       I also have a set of Ring round fog lights and a set ring round
       driving lights (that where fitted for the night stages on the
       rally I recently did) and they do make a very big difference.
       Having the different lens makes a bigger difference than most
       people believe, and the clear lens of the W.C. is very good.
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