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       #Post#: 15641--------------------------------------------------
       trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: johnpirate
       Date: March 15, 2012, 1:04 pm
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       Heres a couple of pictures .I dont know the carrying capacity
       .The guy who built it used it to carry a couple of motocross
       bikes.There doesnt seem to be suspension but its running on
       either 12 or 13 inch tyres.Its there to be converted by someone
       who wants it.Its the usual OLLR price .I bought it but I cant
       see me using it anymore and I rather it got used
       .
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       #Post#: 15647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: strang
       Date: March 15, 2012, 1:34 pm
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       Can I have second dips please John? I will have to get a NATO
       hitch first, and probably won't need the lightboard in the back
       as I have got one already. That green paint will need touching
       up too - any chance you could do that before I collect it?  ;D
       #Post#: 15648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: johnpirate
       Date: March 15, 2012, 1:37 pm
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       Bugger off!!!! Mark!!
       #Post#: 15731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: mat777
       Date: March 16, 2012, 6:23 am
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       Hi John,
       Thanks for the pictures, unfortunately that is a bit big for my
       needs, and I legally need one with a data plate on it as I have
       one of the post 2001 trailer weight restrictions on my licence.
       I appreciate the thought though  :thumbs:
       #Post#: 15733--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: estwdjhn
       Date: March 16, 2012, 6:37 am
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       > and I legally need one with a data plate on it as I have one
       of the post 2001 trailer weight restrictions on my licence.
       --- End Quote ---
       Err, why?
       The law limits what you can tow if it has a data plate.
       If it doesn't have a data plate, then AFAIK they can only go on
       the actual vehicle weights. I'm willing to be corrected on this,
       but I've not read anything suggesting that post 1997 drivers can
       only tow trailers with plates on.
       Anyway, it's not like it would be hard to paint SWL 600kg or
       something similar on it if you wanted to make sure.
       It's unbreaked anyway, which limits it to 750kg gross for all
       drivers. (I'm not sure what score is if you tow an unbraked
       trailer with a vehicle of under 750kg unladen weight , but
       that's hardly an issue that will trouble Landrover owners).
       #Post#: 15734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: mr.scruff
       Date: March 16, 2012, 6:43 am
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       Looks about the right size for a 3" traction with driving cart.
       At least it won't be bouncing along behind quite as bad. But
       what do I know
       #Post#: 15737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: FenTiger
       Date: March 16, 2012, 6:58 am
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       Matt, pin your ears back and listen to advice above before
       dismissing it so quickly.
       As JE points out, the fact that it is unbraked, means that it is
       automatically restricted to 750kg.
       The main problem that you are going to have is that a 750kg
       trailer is a right pain in the arse to tow with a land rover, as
       you cant see them, which makes reversing impossible. Not
       normally that much of a problem as you just unhitch at your
       destination and turn it round by hand.
       I guess that this just another problem with paedo-scale engines,
       they are too big to go in a SWB and to small to be taken
       seriously.
       #Post#: 15739--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: mr.scruff
       Date: March 16, 2012, 7:05 am
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       Cheers!
       #Post#: 15740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: mat777
       Date: March 16, 2012, 7:07 am
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       --- Quote from: estwdjhn link ---
       >
       > [quote]and I legally need one with a data plate on it as I
       have one of the post 2001 trailer weight restrictions on my
       licence.
       --- End Quote ---
       Err, why?
       The law limits what you can tow if it has a data plate.
       If it doesn't have a data plate, then AFAIK they can only go on
       the actual vehicle weights. I'm willing to be corrected on this,
       but I've not read anything suggesting that post 1997 drivers can
       only tow trailers with plates on.
       Anyway, it's not like it would be hard to paint SWL 600kg or
       something similar on it if you wanted to make sure.
       It's unbreaked anyway, which limits it to 750kg gross for all
       drivers. (I'm not sure what score is if you tow an unbraked
       trailer with a vehicle of under 750kg unladen weight , but
       that's hardly an issue that will trouble Landrover owners).
       [/quote]
       Ah, fair do's in that case John and Fentiger. I was working on
       the principle that if i were to be stopped by plod, having a
       data plate with 750kg or under stamped on it would be a lot less
       hassle than them asking why I had an unplated trailer which I
       couldnt prove was under the limit (I went through this minefield
       once when we borrowed an unplated ~2 ton trailer for moving
       sheds). I didnt realise that a trailer being unbraked was
       instant proof of sub 750. That makes my search a lot easier,
       however I need to be careful I dont go too far the other way as
       I know a lot of the cheaper bike trailers arent strong enough to
       handle a 350kg engine.
       --- Quote from: mr.scruff link ---
       >
       > Looks about the right size for a 3" traction with driving
       cart. At least it won't be bouncing along behind quite as bad.
       But what do I know
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was only going off what other steamy folk have told me with
       regards to having an indespensioned trailer for the sake of the
       engine. But given how anal dad has been about building an
       insulated dehumidified storage pod for it in the garage ("it was
       a lot of money and we are going to look after it"), I very much
       doubt he would let me buy one with no apparent suspension.
       The main problem here thought is the width: the reason I was
       after a single bike trailer is because we are very tight on
       space to stow it - we just have room to get a single-bike-width
       trailer on its end flat up against the wall inbetween some
       cabinets and behind one of the cars (and I am not being
       difficult here but there is no way we will be allowed to leave
       it lying around outside). the driving trolley and other gubbins
       can go in the back of the landy -  the trailer will be solely
       for the engine.
       Before anyone accuses me of being difficult as usual and not
       following advice, I am merely laying out the facts. A lot of the
       decisions listed above are my parents not mine. They own the
       garage and the nearly new cars in it the trailer will be
       squashed up against. And the communal grounds maintenance
       company would have something to say about leaving things like
       old trailers lying around the courtyard. I am trying my best
       here but as such, I can either find a trailer that fits all the
       stipulations sizewise or I can go without so, I dont really have
       much choice but to be picky I am afraid  :-\
       #Post#: 15778--------------------------------------------------
       Re: trailer for Matt 
   DIR By: johnpirate
       Date: March 16, 2012, 1:41 pm
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       Fine if someone wants it its there if not.I,ve got a new plasma
       cutter to try out.
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