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       #Post#: 615--------------------------------------------------
       MINUTES
       By: Dazoctaron Date: September 21, 2022, 5:34 pm
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       END OF SEASON MINUTES
       Before the end of season reset and the removal of players that
       have not made their minutes,
       teams will be given the chance to 'save' players.
       Managers can exchange minutes from players that have made their
       minutes
       and add them to players that haven't made their minutes.
       How it works
       You can take upto 400 minutes from any player that has made more
       than the minute requirement
       they need and add half of them to a player that needs minutes.
       A player cannot drop below the minute requirement by having
       minutes removed.
       You can only add the minutes needed to fulfill the minute
       requirement and any excess minutes will be lost
       Minutes will be removed/added in blocks of 10
       You can only add minutes to a player twice (ie: from 2 separate
       players)
       Goalkeeper's are excluded
       EXAMPLE:
       Rael Nerrad
       Amit_Farhi needs 395 minutes and has 0.
       I could take 400 minutes off Shane Eagles (he has 2527 but only
       needs 1375),
       400 minutes off J_Alexander (he has 2300 and only needs 1275)
       and
       add 395 minutes to Farhi. The 5 excess minutes (from the 400)
       would be lost.
       Please post your requests below
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       #Post#: 616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: Dazoctaron Date: September 21, 2022, 7:22 pm
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       PLAYER CURRENTLY IN DANGER
       (Players crossed through can't be saved and will be released)
       [color=pink][tt]
       Player           Mins    Req - Need
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       ACORN ACADEMICALS
       Steve_White       64     395 - 331
       D_Invincible     736     975 - 239
       Don_Rodgers       97     470 - 373
       Yasir_Kasim       48     395 - 347
       Paul_Rideout      55     395 - 340
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       ARCTIC STORM
       NONE
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       DARLINGTON ALLSTARS
       P_Turnbull       773    1005 - 332
       T_Purcell        315     395 - 80
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       GYERGYOI FC
       [s]T_Gyorfy         551     975 - 434[/s]
       N_Feyes          852     990 - 138 --SAVED--
       H_Csazsar        972    1075 - 103 --SAVED--
       P_Vincze         240     395 - 155 --SAVED--
       -----------------------------------
       KYUSHU YAKUZA
       R_Van_Cleef      925    1175 - 250
       [s]Y_Isaac          333     975 - 442[/s]
       Sam_Totman       865    1075 - 210
       [s]Takayoshi        659    1080 - 421[/s]
       -----------------------------------
       LA MANCHA
       Paco_Chia       1133    1190 - 57
       Ike_Ryan         189     395 - 206
       -----------------------------------
       MANCHESTER UNITED
       [s]G_Pallister      279     975 - 696
       Gary_Neville     381     975 - 594[/s]
       Park_Ji-Sung     345     450 - 105
       -----------------------------------
       POMPEY CHIMES
       A_de_Zeeuw       963     975 - 12
       Paul_Merson       92     365 - 273
       [s]Lomana_LuaLua    361     975 - 614[/s]
       -----------------------------------
       RAEL NERRAD
       Patrick_Duffy    641    1035 - 394
       Amit_Farhi         0     395 - 395
       -----------------------------------
       SARNIANS FC
       NONE
       -----------------------------------
       WOLVES
       Emlyn_Hughes    1047    1175 - 128
       [s]Bill_Slater      290     975 - 685[/s]
       Andy_Thompson    195     440 - 245
       Derek_Parkin      98     395 - 297
       [s]P_Broadbent      517    1020 - 503
       Mike_Bailey      518    1080 - 562
       Ron_Flowers      193     975 - 782[/s]
       David_Edwards     98     450 - 352
       [s]Andy_Gray        516     975 - 459[/s]
       R_Swinbourne     137     425 - 288
       -----------------------------------
       YEREVAN STEALTH
       NONE
       -----------------------------------
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       #Post#: 617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: Valderrama Date: September 22, 2022, 1:23 am
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       I assume teams that managed their minutes well get a reward too
       - perhaps 1000 abs to distribute amongst their team?
       Only really fair given those sides weakened their teams to make
       sure all players hit their quota, yet others get rewarded.
       Better still, let's revert to what the rules state. We all knew
       what was required but those teams that ignored it were able to
       play a stronger side in matches, get more abs on the better
       players. These players should not be able to be saved.
       #Post#: 618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: bruffio Date: September 22, 2022, 11:48 am
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       [font=comic sans ms]As much as I agree with the sentiment that
       Valderama is pushing I think its too extreme.
       Yes you are right I think managers should be rewarded BUT they
       are only following the rules and 1000 abs (which is what the
       manager of the year gets) is too much, maybe 300-400 would be
       right like top goal; scorer would get.
       Secondly I disagree because its new and we learn as we go what
       works what does not work and I think what Daz has proposed here
       works because its minimal in the number of minutes that can be
       used, imagine he said that all the extra minutes could be used
       everyone would be safe, and i don't want see managers heavily
       penalised if I did, I would be against things like requesting
       random sheets because shouldn't the manager who never miss a
       sheet be rewarded, but again he's just following the rules.
       should managers be rewarded for obedience
       that's just my opinion[/font]
       #Post#: 619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: Valderrama Date: September 22, 2022, 12:13 pm
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       The minimum value of the players saved is £24m so bear that in
       mind so all of a sudden these teams are getting £48m - £72m in
       compensation for ignoring the rules. In addition playing
       stronger players at the expense of the lower skills meant more
       abs on those players too so strengthens the sides that benefit
       from this new rule. Not forgetting the games they will have won
       at the expense of the three teams that weakened their team in
       games.
       I think 1000abs is actually too low based on the impact to these
       three sides.
       Better still and as said in my first post, let the rules stay as
       they were defined at the beginning and any player that has not
       hit his minutes is released without compensation. It is only the
       truly fair outcome.
       Change for next season by all means so we're all in the same
       boat but not at the end of the season.
       #Post#: 620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: MikeM Date: September 23, 2022, 4:25 am
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       Gyergyoi FC:-
       Please take 300 from A_Goga and allocate:-
       Fejes      140
       vincze    160
       Please take 110 from P_Zsolt and allocate:-
       Csazsar    110
       #Post#: 621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: Dazoctaron Date: September 23, 2022, 7:58 am
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       [quote author=MikeM link=topic=178.msg620#msg620
       date=1663925129]
       Gyergyoi FC:-
       Please take 300 from A_Goga and allocate:-
       Fejes      140
       vincze    160
       Please take 110 from P_Zsolt and allocate:-
       Csazsar    110
       [/quote]
       Only half of the minutes removed can be used and only given to
       one player.
       You can remove minutes from 2 players to give to one player
       though.
       #Post#: 622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MINUTES
       By: Skittles Date: September 25, 2022, 9:11 am
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       I do agree that if sides who played full strength sides all
       season long are now able to have a back stop to prevent them
       losing a group of players for nothing that the 3 of us who
       rotated and played weakened sides to keep our players should
       have a bonus equal to the value that other sides are getting a
       free pass on not losing.
       I mean some sides are getting the chance to avoid losing 5
       players, that’s an extra £75m from ATM fees next season that
       shouldn’t be able to be earned, on average each team is getting
       the chance to keep 3 players that by rights should be gone for
       nothing, so I’d suggest sides that made all their minutes have
       £45-£50m added (equivalent of 3 players going on the ATM) and
       the chance to spend it on an additional scout player before the
       reset or on stadium development without a time penalty?
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