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The other GUZZI.....
By: mhsilverw Date: November 6, 2014, 8:10 am
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Just got back from an 85mile ride on the Guzzi 1000 SP NT, over
a mix of roads and traffic conditions. Not just any 85miles, but
the first few!
Initial reaction was the front feels funny; then remembered it
was a brand new front tyre. Seemed to get better once I guess
the 'newness' rode off.
It's quite rural, so to get used to it, tried some 'B' and
unclassified roads, some with grass growing down the middle.
Took a few miles to work out or find a comfy position on the
saddle; the clutch seemed heavy and the throttle
'stiff'.....seem to recall Guzzi's were renowned for a'stiff'
throttle...(by end of ride seemed ok, I expect it will take some
miles to get used to that!). The front brake lever is obviously
suited to someone with bigger hands too - but ok.
Initially thought the front brakes were poor; then remembered
the linked set-up and tried to get used to using the foot and
sometimes a little r/h brake sometimes. That's better!
Rode through some urban areas/towns that were a bit busy;
surprised I could get in and out of the gears and even find
neutral at a standstill (or thereabouts). Had expected a gearbox
like the Guzzi NF single; but maybe that was just different and
the flywheel effect on that. Once found one false neutral the
whole ride! At low speeds and ambling it seems the SP will cope
ok and not be a torture. Riding position quite nice (once
adjusted to the seat a bit) and seems comfy; can get feet down
and manageable in a good way.
The fairing is (surprisingly) really very good; I must be a the
right height for it; no buffeting; nothing nasty when going a
bit faster....expect on a very hot day (today wasn't bad) it
might even be too warm. Still wont have to worry about that for
a while.
After escaping a fuel stop, and negotiating the myriad of
roundabouts; back into the country on a B road than an A road.
Upto and around town I can see (possibly) where the
'agricultural' references in test talk about; not in a bad way
just not a modern 'knife-thru-butter' way. Once around
50-55-60-65-70mph (all managed easily and no stress on bike or
rider) the bike assumed an amazing smoothness....whereas the K75
was/is smooth everywhere...this is comparable in that range.
Lovely and torquey too. Does seem to take a wee while for the
signals from the (stiff) throttle to the road but creamy smooth
and 'majestic'. Gather the tourers differed in the 'go dept'
from the Le Mans types - at this showing, in a word NICE.
Once bimbling along country A and B roads the bike came into its
own, and was a great companion. Suspension fine (not rock hard
like some Italian bikes). Less fussy and nowhere near as vibey
as the T140 I had a while back; that was the same age; and seems
more solid and planted, and far less vibey all round.
Overall a great ride on what I think will be a good companion;
once I adjust to the seat, clutch and throttle!
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I will (do) miss the NF (& triple K) - but my knee and back
doesn't.
As far as I can tell (but hell, I am no expert) the only
deviations from std are: Think the burgundy colour non-std
(might have been standard on a 850 T4); assume
non-std/replica/replacement silencers; a bra!; (PO) Previous
owner fitted some fog/spot-lamps on the crash-bars; the seat
looks as if it has been lowered (may see if I can alter that a
bit...); the lower faring lowers have been 'shortened' to little
wings below the tank; assume PO may have banged his knees on
them. Seems to be ok to me, quite like it as it is. Not turned
into a café-racer as seems the norm!
M
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: banquo Date: November 7, 2014, 9:01 am
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Nice. Much the same as my Cali III but not as fugly.
The incredibly stiff throttle takes some getting used to, and is
a 'feature' on carburetted models. I'm told it went when they
moved to EFI in '94.
There are softer springs available for the carbs, but I've been
warned off them, as likely to fail to return the slides just as
you enter a bend at full speed.
I find the gearbox fine, although it sometimes doesn't want to
select 1st from standstill, and I discovered that the sidestand
safety switch works on the ignition only, so you can crank away
quite happily, filling everything with fuel, before you realise
what's gone wrong, and get a HUGE explosion and sheet of flame
out of the pipes when it does fire with the stand up.... :-[
Consistency: 10/10
Diversity: 2/10
Commitment: 8/10
NF factor: 66.67% (you get a sympathy vote due to injury!)
#Post#: 370--------------------------------------------------
Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: Jacks the lad Date: January 6, 2015, 8:36 am
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My other Guzzi ? It's a v50 MkII ex police machine. It's in bits
just at the moment in order to do something about it's gearing.
talk about low geared, 50mph at 5000 rpm. I guess it's like that
for use in the city traffic where acceleration was more
important that high sped. Need of course to split the gear box
away from the clutch housing to get a the input gears, so it
wont be a five minute job.
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: banquo Date: January 7, 2015, 2:36 am
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Daft question; you can't change the final drive ratio with a
different bevel box? (you can tell I know nothing about this...
:-[)
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: Jacks the lad Date: January 7, 2015, 3:40 am
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[quote author=banquo link=topic=9.msg372#msg372 date=1420619767]
Daft question; you can't change the final drive ratio with a
different bevel box? [/quote] Yes, I thought that as well.
However it seems the the rear bevel was common right across the
range including the V35 as well. Makes sense I suppose when you
think about it, two small spur gears are going to be cheaper to
produce that a crown and pinion. Easily fitted during the first
assembly of the machine as required. On the V50's the input
(Main) gear box shaft is not in line with the engine, hence the
need for the two small gears. that make it an easy and cheep
place for the Manufactures to change the ratio as they see fit.
MG probably never thought anyone would want to change them,
and even if they did, they didn't worry about it .
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: banquo Date: January 7, 2015, 7:28 am
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That's my something new learned for today then! 8)
I wonder where the speedo drive comes from, and how that will or
won't be effected by changing the spur gears?
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: Jacks the lad Date: January 7, 2015, 9:28 am
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Speedo drives off the front wheel, so no problem
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: banquo Date: January 7, 2015, 11:54 am
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That's handy!
I should know all this, having bought and not yet read a copy of
Guzziology.... :-[
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: OldeGoat Date: July 12, 2017, 6:26 am
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My other Guzzi is a 1992 750T - a nice little bike which is, in
reality, a bit small for me. I quite fancy a Spada, like
Dave's. I likes that, especially in that colour scheme.
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Re: The other GUZZI.....
By: banquo Date: July 15, 2017, 4:54 am
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The Cali works fine for those over six foot. I'm quite comfy on
mine with 34" I/S leg, and despite being a 'custom' it still
goes and corners like any other Tonti.
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