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#Post#: 1044--------------------------------------------------
Clutch compresser
By: cloggy Date: September 24, 2015, 5:50 am
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My Nuovo Falcone may need at least clutch springs.
Advance and retard springs are a tad loose as well and
seemingly not available. It occasionally ticks over high and
knocks when pulling away from idle due to too much advance too
early. I've bodged it with light childrens' elastic bands which
got rid of the knocking and high tickover but are of dubious
durability..... a pack of several hundred brightly coloured
bands cost £1.49. I settled on two tiny pink ones... If that
doesn't work long term I will try sleeving the spring hooks with
tiny rubber tubes, should I find any.
Anyway back to the clutch. What is the german name for the
clutch compressor on the Escher website please? I don't want the
clutch holder, just the compresser to enable new sprigs and
possibly friction plates. North Leicester seem to think it will
just be the springs and that the problem will evaporate once I
change the oil - again. The pleasant muppet I bought the bike
from had used car oil and that does in clutch plates so they
need decomtaminating. Either by using appropriate oil or washing
in thinners of some sort.
#Post#: 1045--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clutch compresser
By: Kater Date: September 24, 2015, 11:57 am
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Hi,
if I got you, here you can see a self made tool for dismantling
the clutch:
HTML http://www.guzzitreff.de/cms/index.php?Technik:Kupplung_tauschen
But it's not the oil when the clutch slips, the coating is over
40 years bold and simply hardened.
To get happy I would use new plates.
Kater
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Re: Clutch compresser
By: banquo Date: September 25, 2015, 5:06 am
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Take a look here:
HTML http://nuovofalcone.createaforum.com/engine-and-transmission/clutch/
HTML http://nuovofalcone.createaforum.com/engine-and-transmission/clutch/
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Re: Clutch compresser
By: cloggy Date: September 25, 2015, 5:07 am
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Thanks very much for that Kater. Though at present the clutch
has stopped slipping. I've had this problem before with Japanese
clutches and Using motor bike specific oil did stop the slipping
for a few months. In the end I soaked the plates in petrol which
sorted it. When measured they were unworn.
I've got a recurrent problem with the advance retard. I was
advised that the bobweights wear and catch on each other.
Spraying with chain oil fixed it for a while but they are
catching again. Sounds like piston slap but is over advance.
That also stops the bike from idling slowly. I'll have to take a
diamond sharpener to it.
I've also lowered the carb float height too much and have to
adjust that. It was too high at first since whatever I did the
bike idled better when the petrol tap was closed. Now it
sometimes spits faintly on idle even when the engine has run for
a few miles.
#Post#: 1049--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clutch compresser
By: cloggy Date: September 25, 2015, 5:10 am
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Clutch is smooth, just a bit too smooth.....
#Post#: 1057--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clutch compresser
By: cloggy Date: October 2, 2015, 6:38 am
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Finally sorted. Raised float height a touch and threaded cable
plastic over the spring hooks on the advance and retard unit.
Could have wrapped elastic or some other material over the hook
bollards which would probably have worked just as well. Anyway
I've got rid of the spring slack that was the cause of the
variable timing and now no knocking and the bike changes gear
really smoothly and idles slowly. My bike has done 60k so it's
likely other bikes with similar mileage have the same problem.
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Re: Clutch compresser
By: banquo Date: October 3, 2015, 7:53 am
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[quote author=cloggy link=topic=173.msg1044#msg1044
date=1443091804]
I've bodged it with light childrens' elastic bands which got
rid of the knocking and high tickover but are of dubious
durability..... a pack of several hundred brightly coloured
bands cost £1.49. I settled on two tiny pink ones...
[/quote]
Should have gone for the green ones.... ;D
I guess springs could be wound, if there's a demand?
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Re: Clutch compresser
By: cloggy Date: October 6, 2015, 4:15 am
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I got rid of the elastic, though I could have used it to wrap
round the bollards. The parts book only refers to the complete
advance unit. I have a translation of the owners manual but
it's not entirely correct and pretty basic.
#Post#: 1077--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clutch compresser
By: banquo Date: October 7, 2015, 8:20 am
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I saw a points plate on eBay a couple of weeks back, but not
sure if the A/R unit was included
#Post#: 1099--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clutch compresser
By: cloggy Date: October 29, 2015, 5:58 am
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My battery has just packed. Ordered straps from Serbia as my
present battery box is non standard for a bigger battery, may
not use them but thought I'd get them whilst offered.
The advance unit is working perfectly now, but a guy I bumped
into at Stafford said commando springs work and also that
commando inlet rubbers fit the military airbox to carb. Still
need to stop the clutch slipping, only does it over 63mph, so
probably still just springs, which are the same as Morini V twin
ones.
I won't bother unless it still slips after another oil change.
How does the advance/retard unit come off? Mine seems to need a
puller.
I really like the bike. I've several twinshock DR400s and KLXs
and a War 16h and 50s M21 amongst other stuff, all unrestored ;
but I just love this. It's like an updated M21.
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