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Reincarnate
By: Brunwar Date: June 19, 2013, 7:16 pm
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Pros ? Cons ?
How to do it and from where exactly in the Lineage Menu i guess
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Re: Reincarnate
By: RhaenysB Date: October 31, 2013, 5:44 pm
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On reincarnation, it seems a good idea to sell everything you
are not keeping before you go and donate the silver to the AvA
camps that are working to be upgraded. JMO. Charlotte.
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Re: Reincarnate
By: Porci Date: November 5, 2013, 8:20 pm
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as far as supporting the alliance is concerned it would be best
to:
[list]
[li]give items to the AvA camps that need them[/li]
[li]give items to the challenges(but never the final item)[/li]
[li]sell the rest(including SS) as suggested, and drop the
silver on AvA camps in need[/li]
[/list]
It might be possible to leave an SS guarding when you
reincarnate, but I have not tested that yet. If so then that
would be preferable to selling them.
pros vs cons.
pro: you can accumulate the buildings of each house, making you
a resource beast as well as opening up more items for your final
incarnation. They also offer bonuses and stats you will not
otherwise have available. The stats alone are a big deal in the
long run, but the bonuses can be huge, cumulatively speaking.
you can rack up spiffy daggers.
you should be able to rack up bonuses for houses you do not
intend to keep. ie get spy boosts from Targ that you will use to
scout for PvP when you go Bar/Grey/whatever later. AFAIK this is
still bugged and the only perm perks that work are the house
building.
you get to experience the game from other houses perspective(the
dialog changes from house to house)
ODC pro: you can rack up ALL the titles! (also bugged it
seems:P)
cons: you loose all that PvP/AvA effectiveness you worked for.
you get to pull your hair out until you have some SS again to
get stuff done.
Unless you use the same name none of your friends will know who
you are(maybe that is a pro?)
If you only sorta like the game you will burn yourself out on it
and quit before you finish your incarnation cycle.
hording bread is a minor nuisance, but it will speed you
along(you can grind out an incarnation in 2 weeks or less if you
really want to this way)
OCD con: you HAVE to get all the titles!
so....in the end doing the incarnation boogie will net you a
more powerful character than you could have otherwise. It is
DEFINATLY not the only way to get your resources up(you could
pile up SS instead and grind with them) but it IS the only way
you will have access to all the toys.
hope that makes your decision a bit easier, cheers;)
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Re: Reincarnate
By: daza.mistwalker Date: December 17, 2013, 5:35 pm
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Stats Vs Percent: What Do I want to Keep?
Like most noobs to the game, I started the game with no clue
about reincarnation. A lot of my friends (some of whom got me
into the game) ended up quitting as they maxed out their
buildings because it appeared they had mastered the game and met
all their goals. Those friends and their inactive accounts are
now great sources of plunder as I continue on my journey to the
Iron Throne. I'm presently on my 3rd reincarnation.
The recent discussion brought up a good question:
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What should I make permanent? A high stat item, like a +30
battle broad sword, or peerless sword that offers +8 but 5%
fight attack bonus?
As I worked my way through my first incarnation, I was vaguely
aware that the specialty % added something extra but it only
became apparent after I had reached about level 150 or so. In
Mr. Magoo-like fashion I began training my fighting SS's so that
their fight stats were always twice what the specialty stat was.
So after adding 2 points of battle, I added 1% point to their
fight stat. In my first incarnation, I made permanent about 4
peerless SS's and some of the more valuable equipments and
units. In the second incarnation, I added 3 more peerless or
legendary swords and a few more items. All of these high +value
SS's and items made leveling up much easier because I had a
bunch of them able to work several of the quests at the same
time. Having the high +point values is invaluable early on as
you are building the power of your hold.
So to answer the above question, I would keep the +30 broad
sword because it will help my peerless SS slice through
challenges in record time and quickly gather more good loot.
But now that I have my 7 peerless SS's I'm done buying them, let
alone making anymore of them permanent. When you reincarnate,
your SS's keep their built up stats, so this is a nice bonus
that they get to keep their training. In my next incarnation,
there are some high percentage items that will get renamed, like
the shield with only +2 battle, but is offering 10% for battle
attacks and defenses. My general rule is that any gear or unit
giving a bonus of more than 7% on attacking and defending fight,
steal, swindle (or better - battle, trade, intrigue) is worth a
look at making permanent. Anything +20 or more deserves a look,
too but that's just me.
Right before taking the plunge, look at your stuff and look at
your gold and keep the best stuff within your budget. The
hardest thing about reincarnation is letting go of so much cool
stuff you worked so hard to get or make. But the good news is
that you'll eventually get more!
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Re: Reincarnate
By: Rohanne Storme Date: December 18, 2013, 3:54 am
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Excellent analysis daza ;)
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Fealty Buildings and the Permanent Talent Re: Reincarnate
By: daza.mistwalker Date: January 17, 2014, 3:46 pm
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There's been a a lot of confusion about that one little talent
point and where to put it. So I'm going to address this and put
to bed some rumors but also maybe raise a few questions. I'm on
my 5th reincarnation and have discovered how these things work
by fiddling with them.
Placing the permanent talent point is the last step right before
reincarnating into your new life. You've read the wikis, you've
done everything else but this is one step you do NOT want to
screw up because if you do, you won't get your fealty building
that you ground away on for the last few weeks or months or even
almost a year!
The good news is that it is practically impossible to screw this
step up. But nothing is ever completely fool proof because
there is always some fool who is also a genius. The first time
I did this, I had read the wikis and blogs and forums and like a
noob, I picked the default; the place the game chose to put it.
And as you can see in my pic of the Greyjoy bonus, I did NOT
pick the "unlock Fealty Building" talent! I picked the bonus
that gave me 2% more Harrass. And every since then, I've been a
lover of all things skirmish. At level 13 during my Tyrell
incarnation, that Greyjoy building opened right up and I had
iron and fish to go with my horses and grain.
However, being a Martell was not as much fun as being a Greyjoy,
so I put my talent in the "proper" spot. I certainly did not
want to risk repeating that one. And then I became a Stark
which was almost as much fun as being a Tyrell. However, I
again went with the game default and now have an aid bonus of 2%
which rarely gets used. Being a Targaryen was more fun than the
prior 2 plus we were in AvA so I waited until level 100 to do my
reincarnation. And in that one, you can see where I put my
permanent talent point. And it appears as though I now can
field an extra sworn sword that I couldn't before.
In short, I have put my permanent talent point all over the
talent tree and have never failed to get my fealty house at the
appropriate time. So now you can learn by my foolishness and
actually pick which talent you would like to take with you on
your quest toward the iron throne. There ARE some
considerations:
1. How long do you want to linger before the next reincarnation?
The better talents tend to be higher on the talent tree. But
for Tyrell and Stark, I didn't feel like going to level 90.
2. Different talents for different houses. In hindsight, I
should have picked one of the level 65 talents, where it was 2%
attack AND defend for my Greyjoy house. I'll probably do this
with my Baratheon house with the battle talent. Many people
covet that extra command point at level 90, and indeed I did
grab it this last time out because I'm not as into spying.
But I am curious: what if I spend gold on a talent and choose to
use my perma-point in the intrigue talent tree? Will I not get
my house? It's not something I'm interested in testing at the
moment and haven't met anyone else who was that curious but it
might be useful to know!
Another question, which I will be able to answer eventually, is
what would happen when revisiting a house. I plan on returning
to my Ironborn ways and if house Martell appears after that, I
my end up going back and forth again.
The one thing I DO know is that you do NOT have to spend your
permanent talent on the level 13 spot, which might arguably be
the most worthless place inside of the fealty tree once you got
the building built. However, if you HAVE done it, I certainly
don't blame you for your caution. Afterall, I did it too, even
after disproving it through my own experience!
Hopefully this will lessen the anxiety about reincarnating as
well as add to the tactical strategizing involved that we enjoy
about this game. That one talent point is not a game changer at
all so I'm not terribly upset about those I have misspent.
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Re: Reincarnate
By: Arafel Date: January 18, 2014, 12:47 am
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Sooo....this is directly from the gotascent.wikia.com....
HINT: When you swear Fealty to a Great House, you will have the
opportunity to learn the Talent that will unlock that House's
unique Building. If you make that Talent your Permanent Talent,
you will be able to rebuild that House-Specific Building every
time you reincarnate. Remember to check your Talent Point
selection before clicking Train Talent; you must have the Level
13 Talent selected in order to properly preserve your previous
incarnations' fealty buildings. Allocating the permanent talent
points anywhere but to the Fealty Buildings (Level 13) will have
no effect and will result in having to replay that Fealty run
again to add the permanent talent point.
So they're full of crap? or it's a bug? or they've changed
something since the article was written?
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Re: Reincarnate
By: Rohanne Storme Date: January 18, 2014, 2:08 am
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I would say it's a huge bug that, maybe, has never been reported
to DB. Thank you very much Daza for the clear explanation.
I, for one, have put all my permanent talent points in the
fealty buidings but will keep on doing it until DB publicly
announces a change in its perm building policy :'(
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Re: Reincarnate
By: daza.mistwalker Date: January 19, 2014, 7:32 pm
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I suspect they might have changed it since the wiki was written.
Basically, the smart thing for them to do would be to default
that talent point on level 13 thus making it very clear and very
simple. But they don't. Perhaps one day I might wake up to
find all of my fealty buildings locked, but I sincerely doubt it
enough that I'm going to continue to pick the talent I want to
make permanent as I think is in the spirit of the game.
when you reach level 13, all of your prior buildings unlock
automatically but you have to manually spend one talent to
unlock your current fealty building.
And since we are discussing talents, my current strategy is to
only spend that single one until I get to level 65. You don't
HAVE to spend them when you get them. Then I have 64 talent
points to pour into the different attack/defend aspects or into
the fealty house if they have something good. It takes at least
that long to decide what most of your soldiers are going to be
good at or what you need them to be good at. First couple
incarnations I was a harrassing machine and the last one I put a
lot more into fight and sabotage. People who have spare talents
have more options.
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Re: Reincarnate
By: Arafel Date: January 19, 2014, 11:18 pm
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Okay. When I make the jump I will throw it somewhere besides the
building and test the theory. I'm stark right now, so...extra
command point?
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