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State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 15, 2011, 10:52 pm
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All that are reading this, thank you.
Two days ago, I was able to start a tradition that I hope will
be able to continue for as long as the game is played. In the
State of the Nomic address, I mentioned that our State is
strong. Tonight, I would like to expand upon that.
There is not much to say-- we are just a developing game, by the
way. Nonetheless, we are able to do a lot of good work in our
first months-- a lot of positive work. We officially have five
members in the three sub-Nomics under our Supreme Nomic. We have
one hundred eighty seven posts in fifty five topics. And I am
extremely happy to see this. This has allowed a growth of
substantial proportions to be accomplished. This is not slowing
down either; in fact, it keeps exponentially growing.
It is our duty to keep this up and let it grow into a beautiful
game that the world has never seen. In my State of the Nomic
Address, I specified how to do this and I am here to remind
everyone that nothing has changed. I, as your Chairman still
strongly believe in every word.
There is one large isue that I see at hand. I have seen a slight
separation of the Supreme Nomic from the sub-Nomics. This is not
good at all. If this separation continues without mend, our game
will fall apart at the seams. There are many ways to fix this,
mostly with legislation. I would like to pont out the three main
ways that this separation can come to an end.
First, I would like to see the development of an internomical
economy. I have spoken about this many times and I feel that
this is the most important of all my points. This economy, if
created and correctly maintained, could bring the Nomics
extremely close. This economy will bind the sub-Nomics into a
United structure-- The United Nomics. Our economical status is,
to say the least, poor. In fact, so poor that we do not have an
economy.
For this to work, we need a currency. I have seen that the
safest design to use would be the United States $ and ¢ signs.
These would be name Newtons and Newtoncents. It would take one
hundred Newtoncents to make a Newton. This is just an idea but
it is worth a thought. I would love to see the Supreme Nomic
players create a perfect economy, one that we can believe in.
To connect, the other Nomics, I see a trade value among all
sub-Nomics, allowing the trade of points, or other system, into
another in a completely separate Nomic. This could easily create
an internomic commerce and economy.
Second, I wish to create a trueinternomical Constitution. Right
now, the Supreme Nomic holds this positionbut I hope, over a
course of multiple passings of legisation, to change it from
the Articles of Confederation to a true Constitution. I feel
this also would create a stronger bond between the Nomics. By
passing legislation, I hope to create rules that write out the
rights of the players and the roles of a Supreme Government.
Also, other rules should be passed directing sub Nomics to
adhere to this "Constitution."
This would allow for players to appeal issues to a higher
authority, players to play without the fear of lockouts and
cheatings, and a regulation of games to actually allow freedom.
Work with me, starting tonight to make this happen.
Third, I wish to create a self-sufficient internomical
democracy. "Mister Chairman, this is already in place!" No, no
it is not. What I mean is to allow the players of the sub Nomics
to have suffrage. I wish to see a game that allows the Supreme
Nomic players to create Supreme Legislation but also allows the
lower players to vote on these issues. I am looking forward to
see legislature that aims to fulfill this idea.
This brings the Nomics together by creating a greater feeling of
power to the lower players. I feel this will mae the lower
players be a part in their Supreme Government. So please, let us
see this come to pass.
Through these three points, I see the separation of the Supreme
Nomic and the sub-Nomics come to an end. i said two days ago
that the State of our Nomic is strong and that is no lie. These
ideas that I have proposed I feel will strengthen the State of
our Nomic even more. Soon, we will be on a solid foundation with
the freedom to form a more perfect Nomic.
Thank you.
***The Chairman is now open for questioning. Please reply to
this post with your question.***
#Post#: 213--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: iqforu Date: January 16, 2011, 4:12 pm
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Mr. Chairman, do you believe that the Supreme Nonic should have
absolute powers over the sub-nomics, despite being the
least-playable of the three? I would imagine it to be more of a
United Nations of sorts; one that calls all nomics together and
lets them pursue their individual games as they see fit. If you
really believe more patchwork legislation will fix this, then
you are sadly mistaken.
#Post#: 218--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 16, 2011, 10:12 pm
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I feel that the Supreme Nomic should be a Constitution of sorts,
not a playable game, per se. It seems fit that if the Supreme
Nomic players sit down with each other for a short time to work
out the exact ways that they see fit, we will create legislation
that creates this. As for patchwork legislation, we originally
created a flawed document. If you see fit we could scrap our
original ideals and create a brand new one from scratch. I see
patchwork legislation as a way to fix what is broken.
Also, this Constitution will allow the other subNomics to be
regulated but the Supreme Nomic would not have absolute power.
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Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: iqforu Date: January 17, 2011, 10:10 am
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I don't see the current Supreme Nomic ruleset is flawed, and I'm
sorry you think that. Because you are wrong. It is perfect. We
only have flawed players. The election cycle works, we just
messed it up. The rules regarding changing the ruleset are
fine, we have just had a lazy chairman. The rules regarding the
admission and requirements of sub-nomics are perfect, we just
don't work to add new players or nomics. The judicial system is
ideal, we just haven't been able to use it. The only possible
fix is to allow the Supreme Nomic Court to hear trials of those
players breaking rules in sub-nomics, but I haven't seen a push
for 'patchwork legislation' from the Chairman.
#Post#: 232--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 17, 2011, 10:20 am
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If you would look in the forums, you will see that I am in fact
working on that. I remember back in December where you yourself
said that you created the Supreme Nomic as a temporary stand in
until we find something better. Better. Therefore it is
definitely not perfect as you say. I see plenty of problems in
our Supreme Nomic including the fact that the election cycle
allows for the Supreme Nomic players to cut out the lower
players. That seems like a very large issue to me.
I feel that your 'lazy Chairman' comment was uncalled for,
however. As you may know, the only roles that the Chairman has
to follow is as follows.
i. Maintaining the Supreme Nomic ruleset when
changes occur.
ii. Ensuring that the Supreme Nomic ruleset is
followed by all players.
iii. Delegating tasks regarding maintaining
Supreme Nomic to the Vice-Chairman or Secretary.
iv. Communicating with other nomics or sub-nomics
when neccesary.
I see nothing about what you are talking about. Changing the
ruleset if you mean that the Chairman writes them in, I have
stayed on top of that but there hasn't been any recent
legislation PASSED. Just proposed.
Yes, we have flawed players. We also are not perfect but
creating these rules and adhering to them should at least
partially fix that problem. I disagree with you, Vice-Chairman
Martin that the Supreme Nomic is flawless. Also, the judicial
system is far from ideal. The accused party is allowed to only
appeal their case to a Chairman that was part of the original
case-- therefore, there is a chance they are bias. Plus, as
based on the rules, they are not allowed to speak on their own
behalf at any point.
The reason you haven't seen a push for legislation is because
you haven't been looking. It is all there. I promise. The reason
none of it has been PASSED yet is because of unyielding,
uncompromisable opposition.
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Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: iqforu Date: January 17, 2011, 10:29 am
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[quote]I remember back in December where you yourself said that
you created the Supreme Nomic as a temporary stand in until we
find something better. Better. Therefore it is definitely not
perfect as you say.[/quote]
This is Missouri. Show me.
[quote]I feel that your 'lazy Chairman' comment was uncalled
for, however.[/quote]
Remember when Rule S7 passed? It took two weeks for that to
become an official rule, because it wasn't reflected in the
ruleset. Which is technically still titled the "Initial
Ruleset."
The public is all about results, and you only have a redundant,
non-controversial Rule S8 to show for your two terms as
Chairman.
[quote]The reason none of it has been PASSED yet is because of
unyielding, uncompromisable opposition.[/quote]
I have only pointed out disastrous flaws in your sophomoric
agenda that will absolutely not benefit anybody except you and
your tyrannical rule.
Good day, sir.
#Post#: 246--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 17, 2011, 10:49 am
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It was spoken, therefore I can not show you but I'm sure that
you know you said it. However, I doubt you will remember.
S7 was passed and was applied at the earliest possible time.
Plus, the results have just been started. I just need the voting
procedure to complete. That involves other players besides
myself.
Disastrous flaws seem to be a bit of an exaggeration. I feel
that my legislation will benefit all of the people playing. I'm
sorry if you can not see that. I would like to point out that
you have not pulled anything significant onto the table for
discussion either other than full of air debates against me. I'm
sorry if you do not like what I am trying to do but until people
start working to perfect my and others legislation, absolutely
nothing will get done, Chairman or not.
#Post#: 249--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: iqforu Date: January 17, 2011, 12:47 pm
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I will own your ass in the debates. See you there.
#Post#: 250--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 17, 2011, 12:48 pm
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Is language really necessary?
#Post#: 275--------------------------------------------------
Re: State of the Economy -- Jonathan Hunter 1/15/2011
By: iqforu Date: January 18, 2011, 9:37 am
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Stop trying to be the bigger man, Jonathan. Nobody's watching.
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