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#Post#: 206--------------------------------------------------
Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 13, 2011, 10:07 pm
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Add:
3) All Nomics must include a voting procedure. All players
do not have to vote, however. Also, if there is only one active
player, the Nomic may not be played.
4) A player has a choice to be active or inactive in any
Nomic. Active players have the rights to gain points, vote, etc.
Inactive players can not vote, gain points, etc. Also, there
will be no cruel or unusual punishment for being inactive in any
Nomic.
5) All Nomics must have a dictator and all players must be
able to become dictator.
6) All Nomics (excluding the Supreme Nomic) are denied the
right to create or amend rules to suppress a specific player or
group of players. The Supreme Nomic is exempt to allow rules to
be passed banning certain acts which may suppress certain
groups.
7) All Nomics must allow free speech though a player is not
allowed to openly speak out against the Supreme Nomic. Doing so
will result in a hearing based off of treason. A player may be
allowed to speak about the Supreme Nomic in a correct, civil
manner.
8 ) All Nomics must follow all rules and regulations laid
out in the Supreme Nomic. Not doing so will result in
Chairmanous Reprimandment. Chairmanous Reprimandment is defined
as creating a Hearing about the situation.
#Post#: 211--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: iqforu Date: January 14, 2011, 12:12 pm
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Before I declare my vote and reasoning, I would like to state
that the proposal is well-intentioned and still works as pass.
But for the sake of discussion, and not just passing a rule to
be amended later like patchwork, I stand opposed to this
proposal for the following reasons:
3) This is redundant; it is covered in S7.1.B of the Supreme
Nomic Ruleset
4) We could expand on this. I don't think it needs to expressly
be required to have the two lists, but inactive players need to
be preserved.
5) I think there should be a rule saying this, specifically
allowing for some possibility (however small).
6) Why can't sub-nomics have the right of oppression, while the
Supreme Nomic does? Shouldn't each nomic have the rights to do
whatever their majority wishes?
7) Once again, nomics should have the right to do whatever their
people, and dictators, decide. Without this fundamental right
of nomics, the right that the games IS DETERMINED BY THOSE
PLAYING, nomic is pointless.
8) Now THATS something I can get behind.
#Post#: 221--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 17, 2011, 8:13 am
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Okay.
3) I realize this is redundant but I did it this way in hopes
that my next move would be to add S7 as part of this rule. If
you want to do that now, we can and replace 3).
4) Would you rather have it where it states something along the
lines of "A player has a choice to be active or inactive in any
Nomic. Active players have the rights to gain points, vote, etc.
Inactive players can not vote, gain points, etc. Also, there
will be no cruel or unusual punishment for being inactive in any
Nomic."? I'm sure we can coome up with something better. Any
ideas?
5) Stay the same. I feel that it allows the Nomics to come up
with their own ways to do so. (Assassinations, point score, or
whatever.)
6) If you argue that fact, then we should just shut down the
Supreme Nomic altogether. The Supreme Nomic seem sto be the rule
set to govern the others. If we leave everything that happens in
the sub-Nomics up to the players, then there's no point for a
Supreme Anything. I feel that the suppression of players is not
a fair way to play games. For example, In Martin's Nomic, they
want to pass a rule saying that all players named Tim can only
speak in clicks and whistles. This would be in violation of this
rule. Now, considering that rule was knocked down by the Supreme
Nomic, a group of players begin to just ignore Tim without any
rule in place. I feel that this rule should allow the Supreme
Nomic to step in and get them to quit or face charges -- Right?
7) Out of all of these, I was just going to see how this would
end up. Probably by the time this comes into power, I won't be
in power so don't worry about that. haha.
8 ) Should we define the Dr. Seussesque Chairmanous
Reprimandment?
#Post#: 223--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 17, 2011, 8:17 am
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Also, we could add (I'm not sure if this would be the place to
put this but...) 9) All Nomics, when passing a new rule or
amendment, once the rule is passed, there may be no earmarks
added to it. All additions that are wanting to be made must be
done through Amendment proposals.
#Post#: 434--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 20, 2011, 9:28 pm
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Shall we continue discussion on this?
#Post#: 439--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: iqforu Date: January 20, 2011, 9:51 pm
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Sure thing.
3) Whatever works, we'll figure something out.
4) That seems fair, draft out what that would look like.
5) I think that each ruleset should specifically outline how to
become ruler, to keep it interesting and give players a goal.
6) Okay, okay. I was just being argumentative :P
7) Now that I'm ruling, I like this rule a lot more ;) but in
all seriousness, lets think about this before we vote on it.
#Post#: 440--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 20, 2011, 9:58 pm
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I updated this... kind of. If you want to update it, you can
just modify the message.
#Post#: 441--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: iqforu Date: January 20, 2011, 10:03 pm
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Like the updates... changing 5) to call it Dictator to make it
consistent with the rest of the ruleset.
#Post#: 442--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: JamesSupreme Date: January 20, 2011, 10:04 pm
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Is that a for? :D
#Post#: 452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Amend Rule: Add more Rules to Keep Sub Nomics in Line
By: iqforu Date: January 20, 2011, 10:12 pm
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Lets work out 3 and 4, but as a straw vote, for. :D
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