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       #Post#: 6273--------------------------------------------------
       Self-confidence issues
       By: Kai Date: January 1, 2016, 11:34 am
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       I think this deserves its own thread? So people that don't want
       to be confronted with the potential negativity don't have to
       read and the chat thread can be used for lighter conversations.
       Let me copy the part from Weisel in the other thread so I can
       answer to that here:
       [quote]As for cosplay and weight, I totally get it. I've lost
       quite a bit of weight in the past several years, but I'm still a
       little in the "overweight" range. Everyone I've cosplayed with
       has been thinner than me and it's a bit difficult to feel
       confident in that situation because I've been curvier than every
       character I've cosplayed, and that's really apparent when I'm
       with someone thinner than me. I know it's silly to get caught up
       with beauty standards like that, but with cosplay, it's hard not
       to! Personally I use shapewear as a sort of solution. Of course
       it doesn't make me skinny looking, but it smooths down the
       curves I have. I actually use a binder, a corset, and some
       compression shorts (I need longer shorts though). It makes a big
       difference in my self confidence as a cosplayer just because it
       draws the attention away from the fact that I've got some
       serious lady curves and instead makes people focus on all my
       hard work. I first noticed the bit with the corset when I was
       cosplaying from attack on titan and I borrowed a corset from a
       friend. I'd been really self conscious because the tucked in
       shirt really showed my squishy stomach, but the corset hid that
       and wasn't too uncomfortable at all! Basically, it doesn't
       matter how much you weigh and cosplay is for fun, but little
       tricks like shapewear under costumes or contouring to hide
       chubby chins (I do that all the time for my squishy baby face)
       can make cosplay more fun by concealing those things that make
       you feel insecure and let you actually focus on enjoying the
       experience.[/quote]
       I agree very much that this actually does bother me more so with
       cosplay than in general, the looks of a character can be
       influenced by the body type you have and cheating only works to
       some extent.
       Shapewear actually is a great idea. I've noticed that I tend to
       feel a bit more comfortable with my long binder that has a
       slight compression material overall and is a bit like a shaping
       top. I felt a bit better with that one, but if you have layers
       of fabric like I did with InuYasha I actually couldn't stand the
       long binder in August and made one myself that is just a tube of
       fabric with an elastic sewn in. Works well and is safe to let
       you breathe, but it only takes care of the chest and nothing
       else.
       That's essentially also the fault I see in shapewear, it can be
       dangerous when the climate or the convention rooms get too warm.
       Heatstrokes are no fun.
       My figure is more androgynous, my shoulders and hips practically
       have the same width and I have almost no waist or boobs (but a
       fairly sturdy ribcage instead). Which is technically a nice base
       for crossplay but everything extra is immediately looking
       squishy and doesn't form into nice curves and in eveyday life
       it's one of the most frustrating things to find a pair of pants
       that won't squish your waist or make weird folds around your
       hips. (It's actually making me shop in the men's department a
       lot.)
       The only womanly thing I seem to have inherited are the chunky
       thighs and from my viewpoint that makes me look very strange in
       combination.
       My personal solution to this is a plan to get back into lifting
       and then probably get over to body weight exercises to keep the
       muscle and the flexibility. Though that's not an instant
       solution for sure and I have a very resiliant metabolism, which
       is good and bad. The good part my muscles develope rather
       quickly, but getting rid of fat is really tedious.
       (I would have agood set of genetics to survive in the westblock,
       but in a place where we have what we need in abundance my body
       just likes to make a little back up deposit...)
       Also a general thing to the topic of figure and cosplay. I keep
       noticing that (sadly I have to include myself too) People keep
       envying the skinny ones, even for characters that one should
       objectively think: 'wait, he/she is an active and strong peson,
       wouldn't an athletic body actually look more authentic than the
       skinny one?' and it WOULD make sense, but the eyes and comments
       still very often go to the skinny ones.
       It's just typical peer pressure in the form of society that
       makes me feel self-conscious very often. Personally I'd want a
       more healthy form and I really kind of want to pull out of the
       unrealistic ideals that society often has. Yet, I just can't
       stay unaffected.
       Still, I suppose I've got my head straight enough that my goal
       isn't to starve myself to something, but take a path that is
       different from how I am now, but also medically healthy.
       Well, this was a long rant, but not bad to get out. Also the
       topic shouldn't be just for weight or figure issues. Any form of
       insecurities you feel you can share or discuss.
       #Post#: 6274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Self-confidence issues
       By: Weisel Date: January 1, 2016, 12:04 pm
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       Weight issues are definitely hard for me with cosplay. Out of
       cosplay it's not bad, I can look in the mirror and be content
       with what I see for the most part, but with cosplay it's a bit
       discouraging to have less attention than I would otherwise.
       Sure, I don't cosplay for the attention, but it's painfully
       obvious why I don't get attention when I see other people
       cosplaying the same character as me with a lower quality costume
       but a thinner figure and they get a load of positive comments
       and notes on their posts. It's a bit discouraging, but I at
       least know now that the only thing that matters in this hobby is
       that I'm having fun.
       Another thing that's starting to get in the way now, and I KNOW
       this will reduce what little attention my cosplays get to about
       nothing, is that I usually need mobility aids to get around.
       Right now this means some large braces on my legs, but I'll
       probably later need a cane for long days. And with the argument
       that it makes the character look inaccurate, people won't want
       to take a photo at a convention or say anything nice about my
       cosplay. At the very least I have a few very encouraging friends
       who would tell me I look great, bless their souls. I can hide
       the braces with very few cosplays and the cane can be built into
       some cosplays but for characters like Nezumi, I can't do that at
       all. I can't even fit the braces under my pants. I still don't
       really know how to go about that. It just feels like having any
       kind of visible aid takes away any attention from how hard I
       worked to make my makeup and costume took great.
       #Post#: 6275--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Self-confidence issues
       By: Kai Date: January 1, 2016, 1:45 pm
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       Yeah, I think that is what irks a lot of cosplayers that aren't
       exactly skinny and it's just a very, very sad example of how our
       society idealises certain things. I mean if you are skinny and
       have spent a lot of work on the cosplay that is great, but if it
       is as you say and the attention's drawn away because of
       something else and the quality just gets ignored it is very sad.
       And wow I experienced that very differently. I've been to a few
       cons in Germany last year. And I saw several cosplayers with
       walking aids and also some in wheelchairs and they generally got
       a lot of positive attention. People going to take pictures with
       them and encouraging them to keep doing good work. But of course
       I can't say how they perceive it themselves, I know none of them
       so it might very well be that they do encounter discouraging
       comments as well.
       In fact I knew some people as well that started thinking in a
       very elite way of themselves. The irony of one person even that
       was 'hating' the elite because they didn't belong, yet at the
       same time they were laughing at quite a few chubby ones and
       other's they percieved as below their level. There's a little
       bit of a classic authoritarian behaviour and social hierarchy
       going around in the cosplay scene in general that can cause
       insecurities in people.
       Finding the right group of friends/comrades/connections that
       fits your own attitude is very helpful.
       #Post#: 6276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Self-confidence issues
       By: Weisel Date: January 1, 2016, 2:28 pm
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       I haven't worn my braces over a cosplay yet, only under my
       cosplay with a cloak, but I've heard other disabled cosplayers
       express the same frustration that their cosplays tend to be
       ignored. I might just experiment one day and wear the same
       cosplay two different days of a con, but one day with my
       mobility aids and the other without them and take note of the
       difference.
       And I think there's always going to be some kind of hierarchy in
       anything, as stupid as it is. A lot of people want to feel
       better than others and hate the people who are liked more. It's
       all really ridiculous though, considering we're all nerds in
       costumes... It really does make all the difference to have the
       right friends for sure. I was feeling super insecure about all
       my cosplays until I met two of my dear cosplay friends (who I
       met through No.6, they cosplayed Nezumi and Shion) and they have
       been so encouraging and positive. Since then, I've been much
       more confident in sharing my photos and I haven't cared so much
       about being perfect. Now cosplay to me is about having fun,
       celebrating achievements, and learning from mistakes. It's much
       more fun that way.
       I should add about the disability thing, my braces aren't
       generally an embarrassment for me. They either don't show up
       (they're black and I almost always wear black pants) or if they
       do, it silently lets people know that I have trouble walking.
       For someone as young as me, it's nice to have something speak
       for me about my limitations because otherwise people just think
       I'm lazy. The cane is something else entirely since it's
       considered an "old person" thing, but I've had several months to
       mentally prep myself for when I might need one. A lot of people
       in the disabled community have trouble taking that step into
       mobility aids just because of that sort of stigma. I think maybe
       I'd be a lot more anxious about it all if I was trying to date
       people or something, but I don't particularly care about that
       stuff right now so that isn't an issue for me. Still, that's an
       issue for a lot of people in my position unfortunately.
       #Post#: 6304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Self-confidence issues
       By: Kai Date: January 5, 2016, 2:57 pm
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       That would be a very interesting experiment. I'd be very curious
       on how people's behaviour would change.
       And yeah that is true, it's simply human nature I guess. As
       frustrating as it is. And it'll always be tied to what society
       deems beautiful at that point in time.
       It's good though that your braces don't make you feel less
       confident in everyday life.
       And I've got another thing that has started to bother me more
       and more again. It's been uncomfortable to me as a young
       teenager and I kind of just gave a f** about it later, but as
       I've started to experiment a little more with make up and
       generally how I look. It's coming back to bit me.
       I got sick on Silvester/New Years when I was 10 and after that
       there's this really peculiar thing that has no definite cause,
       only gusses, spot baldness (alopecia areata) my eyebrows and
       eyelashes just gradually fell out. And it doesn't hurt or
       anything, but it's just weird having no eyebrows and eyelashes.
       Especially since I used to have very long, verly black eyelashes
       before.
       I'm very grateful that my eyebrows have started to 'recover' in
       the last two years and they're not really full, but at least
       there again. My eyelashes though still not really, maybe five
       lashes or so, which is just weird, still. I'm hoping they will
       recover as well, even if it'll be just short ones, whatever. But
       a naked eye just looks weird and it's starting to make me
       uncomfortable again. I'd like to use mascara with the rest and
       fake eyelashes also don't really stick if there's no lashline to
       be the base of it, so you can forget those, too.
       I think this is one of the reasons I have a lot of trouble with
       cosplay eye make-up as well. Naked eyeliner is just not the same
       as it is over lashes, no matter how short or thin they are.
       I know it's not life threatening, so it's a bit whiny, I guess.
       But I do get bothered sometimes.
       (I used to actually think it's stupid how some people shave off
       eyebrows to paint them on. But that was jealousy rearing its
       ugly head. Just... you want something really bad and other
       people throw it away on purpose.)
       #Post#: 6305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Self-confidence issues
       By: Weisel Date: January 5, 2016, 4:18 pm
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       I don't know anything about that condition, but as someone who
       has had sparse eyelashes and eyebrows all my life, I've found
       taking prenatal vitamins has done wonders for me. I started
       taking them maybe a month ago and my eyelashes are much fuller
       and longer, and I think my eyebrows have filled in a bit more.
       (I also think it's sort of silly to totally shave off eyebrows
       to draw them back on, I just pluck off the stuff I really don't
       want and use makeup to shape them better when I cosplay.)
       As for makeup, eyelashes on male characters generally don't need
       to show up. The eyeliner is really key in cosplay, and eyelashes
       are only "needed" for girl characters (or really girly boys
       lol). I've found that I really prefer clear mascara for my
       eyelashes for my male cosplays. I actually have a friend who is
       pretty much the queen of eyeliner, and I could totally ask her
       about techniques that would work for you. (She's super nice, I'm
       sure she'd love to help).
       Anyway, I don't think it's being whiny, it's hard to feel bad
       about something you always see in the mirror. I'm still working
       on my butt chin issues lol...
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