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Comparison between No.6 and The Song of Achilles
By: jjbinkes Date: May 20, 2015, 6:48 pm
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Hi everyone!
I am new to the No.6 community (recently finished watching the
anime, reading the manga now).
While watching the anime, I was also reading The Song of
Achilles and the parallels are insane.
Pretending to be a girl (Achilles and Nezumi)
Girl(s) wanting to have sex, unrequited love (Shion and Safu,
Achilles and Deidameia, Patroclus and Briseis)
Wanting to keep Shion Shion and Achilles Achilles (Nezumi and
Patroclus, respectively)
Shion and Patroclus healing and bandaging others
Achilles and Nezumi being wonderful singers
There’s probably a lot more, including how they die (Greek gods
don’t usually allow the whole coming back from the dead).
Hell, Inukashi even calls Shion Nezumi’s Achilles heel (lol)
I almost think No.6 was partially based off of Achilles and
Patroclus from the Illiad (which I haven't read, technically,
since The Song of Achilles is just a rendition of it).
What do you guys think?
Edit: Sion --> Shion
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Re: Comparison between No.6 and The Song of Achilles
By: listenforthelove Date: May 21, 2015, 5:53 pm
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Hi there @jjbinkes! Great to see your here at the forum, I hope
you'll enjoy your stay here =)
I must confess I haven't read 'The Song of Achilles' and it's
been a while since I read (parts of) the Iliad, but you make
interesting points. It fits quite well, doesn't it? If memory
serves, Achilles was a lot kinder towards Patroclus than he was
towards others, which sounds suspiciously familiar... Achilles'
heel indeed.
Looking at the Iliad, Achilles' wrath over being dishonored by
Agamemnon is a central theme, which kind of ties in with
Nezumi's will to take revenge on the city. (In which case that
would make Agamemnon No. 6?) I think the gods meddle in at
Achilles' request as well, hm...
I'm actually not sure, but my memory seems to insist Patroclus,
until he went on his rampage, wasn't really considered a fighter
at all, or at least a good fighter (or well, not as good as
Achilles, but then again, that's Achilles). Which you could
relate to no-one thinking Shion would harm anyone - until you
hurt Nezumi, that is.
Well, it doesn't match up 100% of course, but those are
certainly interesting parallels~ I wonder if reading the manga
will lead to you coming up with more, since it's slightly
different than the anime in places (I think I can state that
much without spoiling ^^).
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Re: Comparison between No.6 and The Song of Achilles
By: jjbinkes Date: May 21, 2015, 7:48 pm
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Thank you for the welcome!
Also, great point about Patroclus and Shion being surprisingly
good fighters when necessary! Gotta protect dat bae, right?
I'm currently waiting for volume's 6-9 of the manga to ship to
my house from Amazon since no website seems to host them
post-licensing (also want to support the author).
I'll definitely update with anything else I find once they get
here!
So far, the manga > anime, but I still love the anime. Has
anyone read the novel version? Is it significantly different
enough to warrant a separate read?
I also strongly recommend everyone take a gander at The Song of
Achilles, because if you love No.6 (which, being on this forum,
I hope you do) then you will absolutely adore it.
Madeline Miller took TEN YEARS writing that book as accurately
to legend as possible and it shows. Sadly, I noticed she doesn't
seem to be working on anything else. I'm a fairly hard core fan
of Rick Riordan and that man puts out books at an amazing pace!
(Side note: for some reason, hard core as one word appears as
****? Anyone know why?)
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Re: Comparison between No.6 and The Song of Achilles
By: listenforthelove Date: May 22, 2015, 4:02 am
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Ah, it's great that you're supporting the manga release! I hope
you'll get your copies soon~ The scanlators indeed stopped once
the series got licensed after Kodansha asked them to, but they
did provide summaries for the later chapters. (If you're really
impatient, you can check out the links page
HTML http://restructuralcommittee.tumblr.com/links
of the
restructuralcommittee blog for summaries and raws.)
I'd definitely recommend reading the novels as well! 9th avenue
has the translations up right here
HTML http://9th-ave.blogspot.nl/p/no-6.html;
the manga keeps to the
novels fairly well, but of course it can't convey everything the
novels have to offer. There's a lot of character introspection
and some great scenes that the manga had to skip. Of course, in
some cases an image says more than a thousand words, but you can
only cram so many thought balloons into a single page.
I looked up The Song of Achilles and it sounded really
interesting! I hadn't heard of it before, but I'm definitely
going to put it on my to-read list, I'm very curious now.
(Actually, I think I saw Rick Riordan had commented on it on
goodreads? So I'm not sure if you mentioned him on purpose, but
that was a funny coincidence then. And yeah, he writes super
quickly O_O Binge-read the Percy Jackson/Heroes of Olympus
series a while ago and I was amazed that most of them were only
a year apart at most. What the heck.)
(Ah yeah, we know about the censoring issue, sorry about that
^^; it's built in. I think it's been tried to change it but I'm
not sure if that's possible. At least it doesn't censor hard and
core separately then...)
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Re: Comparison between No.6 and The Song of Achilles
By: lawlya Date: May 22, 2015, 5:30 pm
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Those really are a lot of parallels o.O I just say Wow! to that
and it's amazing when someone notices things like that (as I am
someone who enjoys without thinking about content too much,
ahahaha. Easy to please and so on.)
You probably just added another piece to my long, long list of
books I want to read. Thanks for that :D
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Re: Comparison between No.6 and The Song of Achilles
By: Ahiku Date: May 23, 2015, 12:58 pm
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This is really interesting o.o I wonder if it's just a
coincidence or if Asano referred to this story.
Ah, and welcome here, jjbinkes :3
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