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If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how differ
ent would he be?
By: Ahiku Date: May 5, 2015, 2:08 pm
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[quote]If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how
different would he be?[/quote]
Well, there's the question! What do you think? :D The discussion
is open.
[hr]
I think a human has basic characteristics he’ll probably always
develop. That means, he’d probably still be sarcastic and a
jerk, at least sometimes. But he can also be very, very gentle,
tender and loving. You can see it very well throughout the
novels. I mean he’s stroking Shion’s hair pretty often, he’s
touching his cheek and chin, he’s tracing his chest… When Shion
is crying, he’s comforting him. I think he can be very nice.
Okay, sometimes he’s acting and he’s using it as a weapon, for
example when he’s talking to Conk. But especially concerning
Shion, his sometimes maybe even unwitting endearments are not
acted. (Most of them, I’d say…) I think in regard to his past,
there’s still a lot of love and tenderness left inside him.
I think a not traumatized Nezumi would be a pretty good boy.
Maybe not very easy to get along with, because I guess he’d
still be pretty moody, but I know deep inside his heart he’s a
little boy who wants to sing and dance in a forest, surrounded
by stinking wildwood flowers. X’D
What do you think? :3
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Re: If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how di
fferent would he be?
By: Weisel Date: May 5, 2015, 2:29 pm
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Yes, definitely more openly affectionate, but still a sassy
drama queen.
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Re: If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how di
fferent would he be?
By: lawlya Date: May 5, 2015, 3:32 pm
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I agree :)
Nezumi's really intelligent but doesn't seem to have any
intentions of using his brains as a job career. He shows a
pretty laid back and lazy tendency in the novels so I'd think
he'd be one of those unmotivated geniuses who has one topic
(classic books and acting) that holds his whole interests and
passion.
Which means he would still be snarky and probably quite bossy
and maybe even arrogant. And sassy. Definitely sassy.
But as @Ahiku said: He'd also be more affectionate. He wouldn't
have learned to fear human touch and relationships so he may act
more on his feelings. Plus, he wouldn't suppress his feelings
like he does in the canon No.6 story. And he would laugh more ^^
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Re: If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how di
fferent would he be?
By: Meopat Date: May 12, 2015, 8:32 am
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I think about this a lot. ;__;
[quote="Volume 1 Chapter 1 Part C"]"You just took in an escaped
VC and didn't report it to the Bureau. ...If they find that out,
that's even bigger trouble. They're not gonna let you off
easily."
"I know."
Nezumi suddenly grabbed my arm. His thin fingers dug into my
flesh.
"Do you really? I mean, it's not my problem what happens to you,
but if you end up being wiped out because of me, I wouldn't like
that. I'd feel like I did something horrible..."
"That's considerate of you."
"Mama always told me, 'don't cause trouble for other people," he
said lightly.
"Then are you gonna leave?"
"No. I'm tired, and there's a hurricane outside. And I've
finally got a bed. I'll sleep here."
"Make up your mind."
"Papa always told me to separate my public manners from my
private feelings."
"Sounds like a great father."
His fingers withdrew from my arm.
"I guess I was lucky that you were strange," Nezumi said
softly.[/quote] (x
HTML http://9th-ave.blogspot.jp/2011/06/novel-no-6-v1ch1c.html)
I also wonder how much of this is Nezumi making stuff up or if
it was really something his parents had taught him.
Given the situation, it seemed like he was telling the truth...
If that's the case, then it's very possible Nezumi could have
been a very polite boy. XD Sarcastically well-mannered? [s]that
sounds quite a bit like novel!Shion[/s]
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Re: If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how di
fferent would he be?
By: kare_reiko Date: May 12, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Maybe he would be nicer, I really got image of him as a good kid
in beyond when he and gran sit around campfire. He was cute and
he had dreams and hope.
I think 60% of his current character was because of Gran
teaching, this old woman was so devastated after lost of her
homeland and people and she pass that everything to Nezumi (not
like you cam blame her for feeling this way). Her hate and way
of thinking influenced Nezumi a lot.
Second thing that changed Nezumi really deep must have been hunt
and Correctional Facility. He was like 10? when he survived that
hell.
Last thing, living in the West Block, alone, with no help, no
one close for 12 must have been hard. How he managed to get
food? He wasn't actor at beginning for sure. He was hurt by
people many times probably until he find his way to survive in
such environment.
Would Shion be able to get back Nezumi as like when he was kid?
It's hard question, some scars are impossible to heal, mental
too. Nezumi gone away in most important for that moment I think.
Nezumi again has to cope with a lot of things, second hell and
he chose to do it alone.
Maybe Shion's love wasn't enough to fix Nezumi's hurt?
Damn, I should go to sleep because I again starting to analyse
them too much and it turn into dark tones... XD
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Re: If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how di
fferent would he be?
By: Ahiku Date: May 12, 2015, 2:13 pm
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[quote]Maybe he would be nicer, I really got image of him as a
good kid in beyond when he and gran sit around campfire. He was
cute and he had dreams and hope.[/quote]
Word! Nezumi was a very good kid. He loved Gran a lot, he was
worried when she cried and didn't want her to cry, didn't want
her to be hurt...
I don't think she was entirely bad and I think she also loved
Nezumi. She rescued him after all and she just tried to protect
him and to prepare him in case she's not surviving the next day.
It was probably some kind of mental abuse in his case, but they
lived in a harsh world and when they wanted to survive they had
to be like that.
And he's not like Gran wanted him to be. ^^° Especially not
around Shion... he broke down his walls so easily... no wonder
he's afraid of him. X'D
But just like kare_reiko says, he's sooo deeply traumatized, I
don't think that he'll ever be completely okay, but I think time
helps him a lot.
He need time for himself to clarify things with himself. Shion
is more the talker type. And I think after all those events,
he's similar traumatized. They just handle their traumata
completely differently. >,<
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Re: If Nezumi had the chance to grow up with his family...how di
fferent would he be?
By: Kai Date: January 6, 2016, 9:19 am
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I've wondered about this before as well.
He's quite a complex character with a very disturbing and
complex history that probably has had a lot of influence in his
behaviour when he was older.
Though, intelligence is not altered that strongly by nurture and
Nezumi seems to be exceptionally bright. He has little problems
with literature and is able to understand different cultures and
worldviews, which is quite a feat thinking about the barren
cultural background he grew up in. I doubt that people in the
west block give a shit about other's beliefs or traditions if
they don't even care for their lives. But Nezumi still
understands the concept. (He though does have a head start as he
was confronted with a most likely very traditional culture in
his early childhood.)
He also seems to have an able mind when it comes to the
mathematical-logic intelligence, since he's built the robot mice
himself. Not to mention that apparently he was way better in
making them behave natural as in the novels it is mentioned that
No.6 robots are nice, but often dysfunctional especially with
those that get more complex tasks and are easily recognisable as
robots.
Taking that into consideration, no matter where Nezumi would
grow up, he'd most likely be a person to think about and analyze
the world around him. He'd most likely be critical either way as
he developed that trait even in a world that tries to extinguish
it within people. So yeah, the snarky, a little wary part of him
would probably still be there. And I think if he grew up with
the forest people he would definitely have met some sort of
prejudice against the city as they clearly want to stay out of
the developement business.
I could very well see him being interested yet very wary about
technological advance. And with all that intelligence he would
probably still know how to manipulate people just as well, but I
could see him making less use of it and probably also being less
harsh with it.
His emotional development would be the most interesting though
and that could definitely even with his family take several
routes. There's not much of a description on the forest people
and Nezumi obviously does not remember very much. But their
social structures would be very interesting.
There's one thing I did wonder about. Nezumi is a singer and due
to that, how much of a different treatement he would have gotten
because he has inevitably more "power" than others. I don't
quite think there's as much of supressing hierarchy amongst the
forest people since they're trying to just live peacefully with
the nature around them, but even in tribes there's usually a
hierarchy. And with someone that holds a potential for power
treatment is usally different.
It could very well be that with growing years expectations of
him would have grown and caused him to be more careful with his
emotions. So he would still be careful whom he shows how much of
his emotions. Also, he might generally be someone not so vocal
and social, he seems to have been playing alone after all in the
very few memories we get from him. Being alone in the fields
when he meets the forest god.
The biggest difference I think would be the lack of his
obsession with destruction. I think that is what would also make
him more approachable and gentler in general. He wouldn't be
driven with the destruction of No.6 which would broaden his
sight for his immediate environment and mostly the people around
him. I don't really think he'd give or show anything of himself
carelessly, but he'd certainly be more invested in having people
get along around himself and he probably wouldn't think in the
strong dichotomy he shows in the novels. That part is almost
controverse to his intelligence and undestanding of the human
being otherwise, that's mainly driven/blinded by his obsession
to get rid of No. 6.
The lazyness that has been mentioned, I'm not so sure if that is
a part of his personality or more of a symptom of the depressive
surroundings. Could be either way.
I'm actually going as far as to say that Nezumi would under the
circumstances of the forest people being alive make a pretty
good mediator - probably working best alongside Shion - between
them and the city of No. 6. Gentler than he is with all the
trauma, but still not naive and pretty realistic, good for
standing his ground with his arguments.
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