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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: August 5, 2015, 5:17 am
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Oh, that's interesting. o.o I didn't know that. ^^ I thought
he's gonna say "Nechumi" when he's still small and Karan and
Nezumama like it and call him Nezumi. X'D Since he's so cute and
looks like a little mouse. Could also be great to make jokes
later, when someone is telling Nezumi Nozomi and people are
like. "Nozomi? Who's that?" - "That's my name, you jerk. Did you
really think my parents named me "rat"?"
The same happened with some of my friends, some people didn't
even know their real names.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: listenforthelove Date: August 5, 2015, 6:11 am
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Oh my god @Ahiku that is adorable! (Hm, my kanji add-on informs
me that the kanji on its own without 'mi' behind it can also
mean full moon. Make of that what you will. Nocturnal and all
XD) And meh, Shion is technically a girl's name too so psh
Nozomi can totally work.
And Ne'chu'mi omigosh. Mouse sounds and kisses! XD
... must say though, I still associate Nozomi with the
shinkansen. GOOD, THE FASTER HE CAN RETURN TO SHION.
@lawlya: oh, that's interesting, I didn't know that! Is that
universal or does it depend on the language? Is that a thing
that even depends on the language or am I spewing nonsense
again...
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: lawlya Date: August 5, 2015, 6:18 am
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Oh my god, the z to ch is definitely something to consider; just
too cute >w<
@listenforthelove: That's actually a pretty good question but I
don't know ^^" I just got the information from my best friend's
lecture who's studying logopedics. I can ask her about further
intel. Especially since said lecture didn't mention the other
two vowels with a single word o.o (But I'd say vowels are kinda
universal. Gotta be more difficult with the consonants; but
there's also a distinct chronology to those. Although I'd say
her lecture focus on the German language ^^)
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: August 5, 2015, 2:41 pm
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[member=5]listenforthelove[/member]
Full moon is also cute. *-* Both is cute XD Haha... God, I have
to admit, I really love that name now and I'll totally go for
it. X'D Okay, it's not "Mao" enough for canon Nezumi, but I
think it's a good name for an AU.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: lawlya Date: August 6, 2015, 10:24 am
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Okay, as promised, further information on the topic from friend
who even wrote an essay about this :)
Children learn the vowel "a" first because they just have to
open their mouth and let their voice do the rest.
After that comes the "i" because it's the vowel with the
furthest contrast to "a".
Next is either "u" or "e"; that's individual.
Again, there wasn't a mention of "o" but I'd guess it's one of
the last. German "ä", "ü" and "ö" follow much later.
The order is only dependent on the mothertongue if there are
some of the vowels missing in the language altogether; they just
aren't learned then.
Furthermore, children have a preference for their mothertongue
when learning how to speak.
(Do you want all the phases of how babies learn to speak too? I
guess it's not that relevant, huh?)
Up until year 3 it's perfectly fine to have problems with "s"
and "sch" (in English probably "sh").
"z" and "ts" are rather often made into "ch" so it's reasonable
that Shion would call little Nozomi Nechumi.
Okay, I'm done xD
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: August 6, 2015, 3:32 pm
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Ohhh, thank you o.o This is really interesting. X'D
(God, I always love it when you explain stuff for my work stuff
haha. XD Like...how two men could have a baby...for the Baby Mao
doujin... or how babies learn to speak XD)
Good to hear that "Nechumi" is not far-fetched at all.
Ah, but what do you think would Nezumi say? I guess Shion is not
an easy name to say either. Although I could imagine that Nezumi
can say that name pretty early because he's Nezumi.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: lawlya Date: August 6, 2015, 3:50 pm
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Ah, no problem xD It wasn't even my work; I just translated it
kinda horribly.
Well, considering that "sh" is hard to say up to their third
year, I'd say he'd probably say "ch" instead just like Shion.
Otherwise, it seems to be individual how difficult children find
words with "s" and "sh" so you could probably explain that
Nezumi can pronounce "Shion" just fine with him just being
talented and a few months older (which would probably explain
why he'd have no problem with the "o" either).
He could say "Shin" though xD Or something like "Shi-in" or
"Shi-an" or whatever when he just decides to purposefully say
Shion's name wrong because he can't pronounce it right either
way (but like this, no one is gonna guess he just can't
pronounce it but rather think he just doesn't want to say it
right and that would be very Nezumi - especially if he keeps it
up when he finally can say "Shion" but has fun seeing Shion's
reaction or something.)
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: August 6, 2015, 4:16 pm
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Shi-an sounds cute XDD Haha... I guess I won't write thaaat much
about them when they are still babies. ^^ (I plan on writing
short stories, but they all belong to a big AU... I want to
start with Shion's birth and 2-3 baby drabbles and then they'll
be older. But I don't really need to be chronological I guess,
so I can write a story about baby Nezushi even after I've
already written about 14-year old Nezushi, depending on my mood.
:3
Maybe Nezumi is not talking at all until he's a year and then
his first year is a perfect "Shion", don't know it yet.
Otherwise he's just squeaking... haha XDDD Would also be a good
reason to call him Nezumi lol
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: lawlya Date: August 6, 2015, 4:20 pm
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Aww, that's just as cute <3
I swear Nezumi would be one of those creepy kids whose first
word is a perfectly fluent sentence xD And squeaking, oh my god!
I'm definitely looking forward to it ;)
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: August 6, 2015, 4:50 pm
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[quote]I swear Nezumi would be one of those creepy kids whose
first word is a perfectly fluent sentence [/quote]
Yep, that's what I thought XDDD Something like. "Omigod, our
little Nozomi won't talk, let's get him to a doctor..." The
doctor tries to touch him and 1-year old Nezumi is like:
"Blabla, I talked. And now bring me back to Shi-an." X'D
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