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Re: Names in No. 6
By: listenforthelove Date: February 25, 2015, 3:20 am
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@AoYokai: hmm, why Chronos? Maybe I'm getting rusty here, but I
only know of Chronos as the personification of time - other
attributes I know associated with him seem to come from
Cronus/Saturn. Or wait, are you talking about the serpents
around the world egg?
(Actually, I had to look the latter up online since none of my
reference books mention it, so please do explain! I'm very
interested in mythology and I'm already disappointed in myself
for not knowing this oTL)
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Curiousscarletteyes Date: February 25, 2015, 2:21 pm
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Happiness and Cookies. XD I don't quite think that's what he was
aiming for.
But Kronos (Chronos, Chronus: there's so many different
spellings OTL) and Rhea were children of Gaia and Uranus also
known as the earth and sky. Kronos overthrew his father because
he wanted power and married Rhea (who's his sister). Kronos was
super paranoid when Rhea had her babies because there was a
prophecy that his children would overthrow him in the same way
or something (It's been a while. I'm rusty xD) and so he
swallowed all of his children. Rhea wasn't too happy about this
so when she had Zeus, she tricked Kronos and gave him a rock to
swallow instead. So long story short, Zeus defeated his father,
freed his siblings (all the Greek Gods) and threw both his
father and the titans into Tartarus (deepest part of hell).
But hey I also just found something really interesting that I
didn't know: "Many human generations later, Zeus released Kronos
and his brothers from this prison, and made the old Titan king
of the Elysian Islands, home of the blessed dead. "
So. . . Chronos is the place for the people who are the elites.
. .and if Elyurias was named after Elysium. . .maybe these were
the people who were going to help No.6 reach that goal.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: listenforthelove Date: February 25, 2015, 3:12 pm
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@Curiousscarletteyes: okay now I'm confused. I thought @AoYokai
meant Chronos over Cronus/Kronos, with Chronos being the
personification of time and part of some other myths, though he
got likened to Cronus/Kronos possibly because of the similar
names - but was there a difference intended between Chronos and
Cronus/Kronos or are we just talking about one and the same
deity now and is it just about spelling? ???
But that is very interesting indeed, I had no idea Zeus freed
Kronos in the end. That sounds - very generous for Zeus, haha.
But that ties in nicely~
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Curiousscarletteyes Date: February 25, 2015, 4:51 pm
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@listenforthelove: AoYokai might have meant that. xD I was
unaware until this thread hat he's also the personification of
time. So there definitely could be the difference between the
both of them. Oops. But Kronos' name is also spelled three
different ways >_<
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Meopat Date: February 26, 2015, 3:35 am
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@listenforthelove: Thank you for explaining that page to me!! :d
I'm half-literate in Japanese so I tend to space out and
misinterpret things. You're also quite right in that Asano used
very particular names for these characters. (Getsuyaku?!
Really!?) We could try and interpret why she chose each kanji
for each of the No.6-residential characters, but something about
how rushed Vol 9 was also tells me that it's possible she never
fully brought out the characters' full potentials. :C so it
feels like we'll never know why Getsuyaku was named
Moon-Medicine T_T
@Ahiku: So the Moon Drop is a flower and we have a bunch of
[s]killer[/s] bees in this story. XD IS THIS HAPPENING.
But omg, it totally makes sense for the Blocks to just be
referred to as North, East, South, West just to be degrading. :c
The origins of Lost Town seems to be lost on us. I wish the
interview with her in the Completed Guidebook also mentioned
name origins. T_T ... but if it did, we wouldn't be having all
these fascinating conversations :d
@Curiousscarletteyes: That's so interesting that Kronos was king
of the Elysian Isles! I really wonder if it was named "Kuronosu"
just to embody both Father Time and the Titan Kronus. Father
Time, I quote Wiki, was said to have a "serpentine shape."
(Though I'm not really sure what that implies? Since all the
statues of him depict a very human shape. Maybe it's considered
serpentine because he is always sitting and that makes an S
shape??) and I feel with this background knowledge about the
Titan Kronus that the name (Kuronosu) really fits for the elite
members who'll bring No.6 to prosperity.
and now, this is totally wild and partially nonsensical fangirl
theorizing, but suppose Chronos is the serpent of the No.6
Moondrop / flower. Asters are meant to ward snakes away.
[s](only after you burn them, but that can be up for
interpretation)[/s] doesn't this essentially set the stage for
Shion being vital in overthrowing No.6? Feels like a complete
stretch, but it's a fun theory. (of course, it also doesn't clue
in on why Nezumi is Nezumi aside from his majestic grey eyes. D:
)
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: lawlya Date: February 26, 2015, 4:07 am
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But no that makes perfectly sense. Wasn't Shion "burned" when
No.6 declared him a criminal? I mean he first lost his elite
status and then his rights and citizenship altogether.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: AoYokai Date: February 26, 2015, 2:07 pm
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So, I don't know anything about Chronos I just googled it and
found out it wasn't the same as Cronus. Cronus kinda have a bad
connotation, so that's why I was wandering about it...
I've thinking about this whole self-fulfilling prophecy idea for
a while now, sadly I'm not very focus right now and can't put it
to words OTL
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: listenforthelove Date: February 27, 2015, 7:13 am
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@Meopat: yeah, it's a shame... so many characters just have no
name at all, even quite important ones (though that might have
been on purpose). Well, the kanji for medicine does have the
radical for 'grass' in it, indicating a leafy origin, so I guess
that's where it might come from re: Getsuyaku... But I've never
ever heard that name before and even the English manga spelled
it wrong once, possibly because it's so uncommon XD;
Japanese really doesn't differentiate between Chronos and
Kronos; I'm guessing they always need to explain which one
they're talking about when discussing mythology, because it
literally is Kuronosu in both cases, not just in No. 6. I can
only find that 'serpentine shape' thing on wiki and on the
website that wiki copied it from, so I have no idea how accurate
that is... so many clashing sources for mythology, and
apparently even in antiquity they were already confusing the two
deities because of the similar names.
@AoYokai: ah, I see! Quite curious to your idea about the
self-fulfilling prophecy, so if you ever feel like it, please
share?
I personally think Cronus/Kronos (can I just pick Kronos, it's
what we Dutchies use XD) fits well because A) overthrew his
father/predecessor, with help of Mother Earth if you want to tie
that in, and B) got overthrown himself by the very people it
tried to oppress/eat to avoid that from happening. I'm pretty
sure his wife Rhea sought help from Gaia/Mother Earth for that
too, actually.
... Would the birth of Aphrodite fit in there somewhere, I
wonder. Because she was born when Kronos chopped off his dad's,
eh, crown jewels and tossed them in the sea XD;
Oh, something else I just realized: in Roman mythology, their
god Saturn was merged with the deity Kronos. Saturn was more
benevolent than Kronos, but more interestingly, he was
associated with agriculture among other things (his scythe later
became part of the imagery of Father Time partly because of the
Chronos/Kronos confusion, apparently, but that as an aside). In
Japanese, the planet Saturn is dosei, which means 'earth/soil
star' (and Satur-day is Do-youbi, earth/soil day).
... that probably wasn't super relevant, but hey earthy words!
I'll go shut up now about mythology how about that. Oops.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: August 5, 2015, 4:35 am
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Ok, I revive this thread now~
I just thought that "Nozomi" (望) would be a cute name for
Nezumi. It's a pretty feminine name but I've also found some
guys with that name on wikipedia, ithe sound is super similar to
Nezumi and it means hope. XD Isn't that cute?
I plan on writing a childhood friends AU in which Karan and
Nezumi's mom are friends and neighbors and the boys grow up
together... I play with the thought of calling him Nozomi and
Nezumi is his nickname, because mini Shion can't say his name
properly... Hmmmm~ :D
Edit: Just imagine Nezumi coming back and telling Shion his
name, since he promised him to tell him his name one day and he
said that he'd never break a promise.
Nezumi: "Ah, btw. my real name is Nozomi."
Shion: (.____.)
Nezumi: o.o What?
Shion: There's barely any difference.
Nezumi: Well, whatever. You wanted to know my name. Besides, I'm
still taller than you.
Shion: There's barely any difference.
Nezumi: Coming back was definitely worth it. You're charming and
eloquent as ever, Your Majesty.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: lawlya Date: August 5, 2015, 4:45 am
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Aww, it's such a cute idea to give Nezumi his nickname because
Shion just can't pronounce his name xD
It would even go along with speech development of children.
Apparently they learn a, e and i first and the other two vowels
later so it would make sense that little Shion just can't
pronounce the o in Nozomi and makes it an e.
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