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Names in No. 6
By: AoYokai Date: February 19, 2015, 3:13 pm
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I don't know how much this really counts as analysis, but I
noticed that the topic of names repeats itself a lot in No. 6.
There are three type of characters as far as I'm concerned:
1. Characters with names: that's a pretty common thing that I
have nothing to say about. Notice that the only characters that
have actual names are either from No. 6 or originally from
around No. 6 (such as Rikiga). Also, Shion's name being a flower
is mentioned quite a lot. I wondered for a while about Yoming's
name, because (I might have already said it somewhere) it sounds
more Chinese than Japanese to me (than again I don't speak
Japanese and I barely speak Chinese so...) If anyone knows how
Yoming's name was spelled in Japanese or in Chinese that could
shed some light on the subject.
2. [s]Characters with no names:[/s] there are several characters
that are only referred too by their title, such as the man in
the lab coat, Nezumi's grandma, Shion's father, Inukashi's
mother.... I tend to think that these characters don't have
names only because they only took part in the story in other
people's thoughts, or in the man in the lab coat's case, because
Safu simply didn't know and couldn't ask for his name. Shion's
father can also be related to the next category, because he
called himself 'Shion' in beyond.
3. Characters that go by nicknames: yes, that's right. Nezumi's
turn. Of course, he isn't the only one. I have to admit that I
have very little to say about Nezumi's name, mostly because I
think he doesn't care about this sort of things. Also, Eve? Such
as, the person who ruined paradise by gaining knowledge? I
wonder why that sounds famili--oh wait the beginning of No. 6.
More in the 'I don't have a name 'cause I don't give a ****'
category, Inukashi. Nothing more to add about that. But then we
have other characters with pretty interesting concepts.
-Fennec: of all animals Atuko Asano could choose, fennec? And
for a pretty important and cruel person, he's taking this sort
of offensive nickname kinda easily, don't you think?
-Rou: as I said before only people from No. 6 have actual names.
Did he change it in order to get rid of his past? Also, was he
really an Elder when he arrived to that place?
-Elyurias: my personal favorite, Elyurias doesn't have a name
and in reality, is by itself a being that can't be defined.
Pretty cool, in my opinion :)
-No.6: I realize this is not a character *but* why name your
cities after numbers? Don't you have more creative things than
that? Also, they chose to keep the name after they started
rebuilding it, which is pretty strange.
After writing this I realized that Sasori does have a name and
he's not from No. 6 but nah you get my point. (Sasori is my
favorite underrated character tbh)
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Vox Date: February 19, 2015, 4:05 pm
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Oh, I'm pretty sure that listenforthelove did a kanji analysis
of people's names. I think it's relevant to this topic, so I
wanted to link it, but I can't bloody well find it.
@listenforthelove, help ;A;
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: listenforthelove Date: February 19, 2015, 4:09 pm
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EDIT: I was just gonna post this when I saw @Vox's comment,
haha. See below for the link!
Ahh, thanks for starting this topic, @Aoyokai! Names in No. 6
are very interesting~
I hope it's okay if I comment on some points you raised there,
since I researched most names in No. 6 a while ago. (Here's the
post
HTML http://listenforthelove.tumblr.com/post/84029734130/no-6-character-names-analysis<br
/>in case you're interested; it's mostly about meanings.)
In Yoming's case: the spelling of his name is a translator's
choice on 9th avenue's part. If you use the Hepburn system, you
would spell his name as Yômin with a long O sound (this is also
the writing the English manga adopts, though they shorten it to
Yomin). His name uses kanji: 楊眠. Not entirely sure
where that -ng choice came from, but there you go.
Sasori's name is most likely a nickname, since it means
'Scorpion' and that's definitely the air he gives off; his
character model resembles a scorpion too (presumably Rou named
him and he likes to name people after animals: case in point,
Nezumi. Funnily enough, they left 'Sasori' in the English manga,
though they translated Nezumi and Inukashi... hm, I wonder if
they missed it or if they consciously tried to get away with it
and succeeded. Apparently 'Rat' was demanded on Kodansha Japan's
side).
Elyurias is, I'm pretty sure, just as nonsensical in Japanese as
it is in English. Which makes sense since it's an invented name,
but it's strange it doesn't seem to have a deeper meaning
whatsoever. (Unless someone has an idea! It does sound very
close to SOMEthing to me, but I can't figure out what.) But
yeah, it's not her real name anyway - which is just as well.
That which we call a rose, by any other name etc ;)
I think the idea of numbering the cities was to make them as
equal as possible - though of course numbering already includes
some kind of hierarchy, so there's that. I think it was stated
they kept the name of No. 6 for now since that was easiest? But
it's been a while since I reread Beyond, so please correct me if
I'm wrong.
You're absolutely right, only the people in No. 6 have 'proper'
names, or at least names with kanji (Karan and Riko in the West
Block have their names spelled in katakana, which has no meaning
other than pronunciation). And most names seem to relate to
plants and nature somehow, it's very interesting.
I find it funny Asano picked a fennec fox of all animals with
large ears, haha. They're so cute! Maybe it's a 'don't judge by
appearance' kind of thing. I assume he has a long standing
friendship with the man in the lab coat and that that's why he
takes the nickname from him and no-one else. But it's still
curious no-one seems to know the Mayor's name or that he doesn't
have some kind of title other than Mayor.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Weisel Date: February 19, 2015, 4:12 pm
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I think no one could agree on a new name for the city in Beyond,
so they just stuck with No.6 for the time being.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Vox Date: February 19, 2015, 4:13 pm
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This is somewhat off track, but I really liked The Sun In
Jericho's renaming of No. 6 to Jericho. That was just a really
good fic. And I think Asano Atsuko would appreciate the Biblical
reference.
One time I tried to start a Nezumi/Inukashi naming contest, but
no one was interested. What a tragedy.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Weisel Date: February 19, 2015, 4:33 pm
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@Vox Nezumi's real name is Jessica. End of story.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: February 19, 2015, 4:52 pm
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[quote][member=16]Vox[/member] Nezumi's real name is Jessica.
End of story.[/quote]
Oh god o.o
Ah...I've read a fanfiction (I think it's called "hands of time"
or something like that) where the author called Nezumi "Niyol".
Somehow I liked that. X'D I guess it would be something like
that... Something melodic and uncommon and elegant.
As for No. 6's name... I guess they had better things to do than
renaming it. I mean, what's in a name? Nezumi taught Shion that
names are not important... just like Nezumi is Nezumi.
And No. 6 is No. 6... it's not the name that sucked and made it
evil, it were the people.
In the end, changing the name doesn't change the city at all.
You have to work hard to accomplish that. (And it would also
suck when people in other cities want to sent packages and
letters to people in No. 6 X'D)
Edit: Btw... "Yoming" is "Yomin" in the German version. ^^ I was
also confused about his name in the 9th avenue translation,
since ming sounds Chinsese indeed.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: listenforthelove Date: February 19, 2015, 4:59 pm
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[quote author=Ahiku link=topic=107.msg3020#msg3020
date=1424386330]
Edit: Btw... "Yoming" is "Yomin" in the German version. ^^ I was
also confused about his name in the 9th avenue translation,
since ming sounds Chinsese indeed.
[/quote]
Yeah, so did the English manga... I'm still not sure why 9th
avenue decided to go with Yoming. It kinda does sound Chinese,
maybe they wanted to emphasize that? Oh well.
-checks post above- oh hang on, I'm just repeating myself here,
oops.
But yeah, I suppose no-one really dares to name Nezumi XD Niyol
sounds pretty cool though, and I guess it sounds close enough to
Nezumi not to sound too jarringly different?
([s]I am severely disappointed Nezumi didn't quote 'a rose by
any other name' to Shion when he asked for his real name, by the
way. Come on Nezumi, Shakespeare! Oh well I'll just stuff it in
my fic then. Your loss, Nezumi.[/s])
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Weisel Date: February 19, 2015, 5:00 pm
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I had to look it up, but what a perfect name. Niyol means
"wind." Of course.
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Re: Names in No. 6
By: Ahiku Date: February 20, 2015, 5:35 am
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Oh...so it's really fitting! o.o I come to like it more and
more. X'D
And it doesn't sound awkward. XD
Hmm...and for Inukashi.
Somehow I'd choose an African name, since Inukashi is tanned.
And I think that their ancestors probably came from another city
state in the south.
There are some names you can use for males and females.
I like the name Imani... it also sounds a bit Japanese and you
can write it in Katakana easily.
It's for f & m and means "faith" in Swahili and it's of Arabic
origin.
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