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       #Post#: 554--------------------------------------------------
       The committee
       By: Raider12 Date: October 10, 2012, 4:18 pm
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       Is it me or does this site and the committee seemed to have died
       off?
       Mark
       #Post#: 555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The committee
       By: ham89 Date: October 11, 2012, 7:03 am
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       Obviously I cant speak for everyone but for me, it is not as I
       expected.
       The organisation has been poor and although progress has been
       made in areas, there are others where not much has happened. We
       seemed to have a vote to discuss 1 idea at the next meeting
       (which I think is not enough) and the vote came to a topic which
       I also don't see much point in pursuing at this time.
       For me, I always thought the committee was here to discuss and
       forward all ideas and topics what have been brought to our
       attention. Not to agree on a very narrow topic (IS game) where
       at the next meeting we can do very little to affect.
       Since becoming a member, I have had numerous areas of input from
       numerous fans, none of which were the IS game. This is why I
       have taken a step back.
       Oh just in case anyone was curious, the main points brought up
       have been lack of regional events (which I am always harping on
       about - sorry lol), poor ticket sales and distribution
       (ticketmaster issue though), no way to sell/trade tickets (at
       face value) when circumstances change [1] and poor quality and
       quantity of products on sale through official channels.
       [1] - one particular case brought to my attention was a father
       and his son attending the game. This latter changed to a father
       and his two sons. He already had 2 tickets together and now
       either had to buy an additional 1 ticket and sit away from his
       kids or buy 3 more and somehow try to sell the other 2. Clearly
       not a tout, massive fan of the game and yet he is being punished
       for the situation.
       Graham
       #Post#: 556--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The committee
       By: Raider12 Date: October 11, 2012, 12:09 pm
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       I just feel as though the past 4-6 weeks nothing has
       happened/discussed or even got anywhere. When this was brought
       up by the NFLUK to have a committee to see about increasing the
       fanbase, definetly thought folk where up for it. But as time has
       gone by it is clear some folk are not bothered and in my eyes
       seen it as a jolly to London.
       If folk do not want to be part of it, then that is fine but let
       us know so that we can get on with things.
       This is an enormous oppurtunity to be at the start of something,
       that genuinly can influence and have a purpose for the UK fans,
       but the way it is going it wont and will be disbanded, which is
       a shame.
       I know what you are saying Graham and yeh I do agree that after
       all this time their is nothing onboard. The I.S. game maybe
       cannot be influenced this year, but as the Jags are here for 4
       years, then we can play a part on that to get more fans into the
       sport. Their are a number of other topics that can be covered,
       including grass roots and how we get all the different groups
       together in the UK. But if no one wants to put their tuppence in
       then we are knackered.
       Mark
       #Post#: 557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The committee
       By: ham89 Date: October 11, 2012, 2:57 pm
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       I am 100% with you on wanting to be active here.
       It's not that I dont want to discuss the IS game, i just feel
       waiting until after this one is more appropriate. We can then
       say what worked and didnt work and offer up solutions.
       Grass roots is a great idea too. TBH im in favour of anything
       that will grow the game at a local level. I feel when it comes
       to national ideas, they are too focused on London. Local ideas
       for growth includes everyone and lets regions change and adapt
       to suit themselves. Clubs, teams, events, parties, flag
       football, meetings, all could work really well at a local level
       to grow understanding and knowledge.
       E.g - if i was given say some small starter kit to start an NFL
       fan club in Edinburgh that meets on Sundays in a local bar (or
       wherever) I would happily try and get people attending. Summer
       BBQ's, games in the park, watching matches, all could be fun and
       helpful.
       #Post#: 558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The committee
       By: ChrisWells Date: October 11, 2012, 3:06 pm
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       Yeah. i have been absent . Work has got the better of me this
       past few weeks. I have sent a message to Phil to see how his
       progress is with the draft proposal . .
       I hope to get back on at least a couple times this week.
       As for the IS, that came up as the main item, and while that may
       or may not boost the fanbase here, it was suggested we include
       the idea of the NFLUK fan club at the IS, as a start, that could
       then be rolled out into local communities (with whatever support
       NFLUK would like to give/be involved with). So, that aspect will
       be included in the draft proposal.
       I have called the NFLUK Europe shop (kitbag) and inquired about
       the range. not much to report back on. They seem to think they
       will have more variety for the IS and subsequently more on the
       website.  This is something that is a big issue for fans, but
       like the IS, it seems to be a waiting game, and it may improve.
       Just have to keep watching that space.
       Good news on the 9ers coming back.
       I will see how Phil is getting on again and feed back.
       Cheers
       Chris
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       Re: The committee
       By: kpaterson Date: October 16, 2012, 12:35 pm
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       [quote author=ham89 link=topic=28.msg555#msg555 date=1349956991]
       Obviously I cant speak for everyone but for me, it is not as I
       expected.
       The organisation has been poor and although progress has been
       made in areas, there are others where not much has happened. We
       seemed to have a vote to discuss 1 idea at the next meeting
       (which I think is not enough) and the vote came to a topic which
       I also don't see much point in pursuing at this time.
       For me, I always thought the committee was here to discuss and
       forward all ideas and topics what have been brought to our
       attention. Not to agree on a very narrow topic (IS game) where
       at the next meeting we can do very little to affect.
       Since becoming a member, I have had numerous areas of input from
       numerous fans, none of which were the IS game. This is why I
       have taken a step back.
       Oh just in case anyone was curious, the main points brought up
       have been lack of regional events (which I am always harping on
       about - sorry lol), poor ticket sales and distribution
       (ticketmaster issue though), no way to sell/trade tickets (at
       face value) when circumstances change [1] and poor quality and
       quantity of products on sale through official channels.
       [1] - one particular case brought to my attention was a father
       and his son attending the game. This latter changed to a father
       and his two sons. He already had 2 tickets together and now
       either had to buy an additional 1 ticket and sit away from his
       kids or buy 3 more and somehow try to sell the other 2. Clearly
       not a tout, massive fan of the game and yet he is being punished
       for the situation.
       Graham
       [/quote]
       Graham I would say that most of the things you mention above
       (ticket sales, distribution etc) are all within the overall IS
       topic.  Lack of regional events is the exception obviously.
       More generally, the main thing holding us back is actually the
       frequency of meetings with NFLUK.  This has slipped from
       September to October to (now) November.  We can debate all we
       like on here but what matters is the meetings with NFLUK because
       they are the ones we are tasked with communicating with on
       behalf of the fans.  I see us as being a bit like a union rep:
       we are there to tell the boss (NFLUK) what the views of our
       workforce (the UK fans) are and to pass back the views of the
       bosses to the workers.  A go-between, conduit, whatever you wish
       to call it.  But a union rep is pretty ineffective without
       regular meetings with the bosses!!  So I hope that the current
       proposed meeting around Thanskgiving doesn't slip any further.
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