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       #Post#: 144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: kpaterson
       Date: July 26, 2012, 7:48 am
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       Just catching up on some of the posts on here and thought I'd
       share my views:
       1. I won't be getting on the forums very regularly - maybe once
       a week.  Just the lifestyle I lead, and I've never been a big
       forum poster. I think there will be others the same and it's
       good to have that diversity on the committee because it gives a
       broad range of types of people and social demographics which we
       need.  The committee isn't conducted through these forums, the
       forums are just a handy tool some of us are (rightly) using to
       help collate views.  If someone doesn't come on here at all but
       comes to the next meeting with some great ideas, all well and
       good.
       2.  Having said the above, don't let that stop those that are
       more active on here moving things forwards.  I don't expect
       anyone to wait for me.  I'm happy for people to have roles like
       minute-taker, chair etc, as I know I'll have plenty views and
       ideas on whatever subject is chosen for the next meeting
       regardless.
       3.  Most important thing now, IMO, is to get next meeting's
       topic chosen and with that in mind I suggest we get the poll up
       and running on NFLUK.com if it's not already (I've not seen it
       but I may be being blind!).  I really don't mind what topic we
       end up with, but would be good to get it sorted so I can start
       brainstorming it in my head.
       4.  Once the topic is chosen, I wonder if NFLUK would be able to
       perhaps provide - in advance of the meeting (at least a few
       weeks) - a bullet point Exec Summary of the key points on the
       topic (which they can explain in detail at the meeting) so we
       know the main hudles in advance so we know the parameters in
       which we're working. I do a fictional example below.
       In terms of the next meeting, presumably either TV coverage or
       the IS are the bookies favourites for winning the poll?  The
       difficulty with either thing will of course be that it will
       likely be too late to have much influance on either the 2012 TV
       rights or the 2012 IS game.  So we need to be going along
       actually thinking very much about the 2013 season!
       Kev
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       Example NFLUK advance Exec Summary if next topic was, say,
       Merchandise (I've made this stuff up to showcase the point):
       1.  USA to UK customs rules mean high levels of import duties
       charged bring stuff into the UK;
       2.  Problems with NFL in US that they won't give a UK company an
       unlimited license to distribute merchandise in UK;
       3.  NFLPA demand high royalty payments on sales made outside US;
       4.  Too expensive to have a formal supply chain in place;
       5.  Revenue sharing agreement doesn't cover non-US sales so
       teams are arguing who gets to keep the profits from the sales.
       Having a summary like the above would be useful ahead of the
       next meeting to at least focus our thoughts (although may be
       some reluctance for NFL UK to put things in writing?).
       
       #Post#: 145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: Raider12
       Date: July 26, 2012, 8:53 am
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       "You have indeed, but as you said, 8 people are missing and they
       have just as much right for an active role than everyone else.
       Its going to come to the stage where at the next meeting, these
       8 wont get a chance to speak because our so called "elected
       leaders" will be. "
       Graham that is not the point of the positions, those positions
       are not to stop anyone else having their say and points
       discussed, far from it. It is only to make a structure so that
       the committe can progress. However this committe is for everyone
       to take part in and I take it that is why folk have went out of
       their way to apply.
       Kevin the purpose for this site is so that we as a committe can
       come together before meetings to discuss and thrash out ideas,
       which are topical and important to both the fans and NFL alike.
       We only have 2 hours at the meeting which is no time at all to
       discuss important topics, and if no groundwork is done before
       highlighting problems with solutions then the meeting will no
       doubt fail. I really do not see the point of applying and being
       accepted to the NFLUK fan committe and not taking an active part
       in it, except at meetings!
       It is important all of us do get together on this bearing in
       mind at the meeting AK did mention about us getting together as
       a group between meetings. This is something that NFLUK where
       prepared to set up on the forum in a seperate locked section,
       but Ken managed to get this up and running which is preferable
       than being being on the official site.
       Mark
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       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: ChrisWells
       Date: July 26, 2012, 9:15 am
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       I agree with Mark. we have to be working together on a regular
       basis otherwise we will come across as not taking this seriously
       enough. which could result in the next meeting with nfluk being
       the last.
       they are serious about having the fans involved. we need to be
       serious about it.
       I haven't been a big forum user but this seems ti be the best
       way for us all to.communicate as we can't easily get together.
       unless someone has a better suggestion at communication then we
       all need to rise and use this as our tool.
       Don't mean to.come.off preachy. I just really want this to.work
       and not become fractitous .
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       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: Raider12
       Date: July 26, 2012, 9:24 am
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       Thats it Chris, it is an oppurtunity that has come around that
       never does, and we have to grab it, and yeh make it work for the
       fans to get a great sport off the ground in a big way in the UK,
       and we all have to work together.
       Mark
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       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: Gerrysloan
       Date: July 26, 2012, 12:41 pm
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       Sorry I was not on last night I have been on holiday & I have
       found getting on the site difficult
       #Post#: 154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: andy9999
       Date: July 26, 2012, 3:02 pm
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       I totally agree with Mark and Chris. 2 hours at meetings are not
       enough, look at the first meeting it went well over 2 hours and
       we barely had time to touch on topics. The positions are to
       ensure the committee stays on track and efficient and as was
       previously mentioned the positions can be rotated. With these
       forums we have an opportunity to throw out all huge range of
       opinions and potential topics so we can be prepared for and use
       our time in the meetings with AK in the most efficient way
       possible. The more we use these forums the better the meetings
       will be.
       #Post#: 155--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: S7ani
       Date: July 27, 2012, 12:27 am
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       Not sure where we are now!I dont buy in to the im too busy for
       this scenario- i'm sure all of us have busy lifes/demanding jobs
       , and im sure all of us can talk NFL for 2hrs+ on our own, i
       appreciate we are all different and thats a good thing but lets
       think of the bigger picture - this isnt just about us - we are
       here for the forum too and by being part of the committee surely
       we have made a commitment to represent others not just ourselves
       and that might involve some sacrifices?
       How we do the representing others is the bit where i think we
       need a bit of a rethink,i too think we need to put 5 choices
       whatever they are on the main forum. for example, Maybe even
       though we cant change things answers on tv coverage maybe more
       important to the forum than anything else - so its not just our
       job to find ways of promoting the game and the forum, we may
       also be of use by being able to put the correct questions to the
       nfl office and relaying the answers effectively back to the site
       #Post#: 157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: Duper85
       Date: July 30, 2012, 2:39 am
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       Right I'm in, sorry taken a while, been momentously busy
       recently.
       #Post#: 158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: Raider12
       Date: July 30, 2012, 6:35 am
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       I have been off all weekend due to my sons 30th birthday.
       Bit shocked to come on and actually see nothing has changed
       since I was previously on. Lets not beat about the bush. This
       committee was set up by NFLUK, and all of us were up for the
       challenge.  But It appears that only a few out of the 20 are
       prepared to come on here and actually contribute. So in essence
       why bother attending London, promising to take part and then not
       bother, that is how it seems. I report to Nick at the office on
       what is going on with the committee, bit difficult to do when
       there is hee haw.
       If you are not prepared to participate, both here and on the
       NFLUK site maybe its about time to let another fan come into the
       mix.
       Mark
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       Re: Welcome
   DIR By: ChrisWells
       Date: July 30, 2012, 9:05 am
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       We are still in need of a chair and vice for the meantime.
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