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#Post#: 9077--------------------------------------------------
[BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Caos Date: September 4, 2015, 8:26 am
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Realizing That the constitution, as well as individual state
laws, do not necessarily prevent the abuse of individual
citizens, and that through only constant monitoring by large
states shall they be kept in check,
Recognizing The need for a clarification of the freedoms a
person has, as well as what a state can do for them,
Also Recognizing The sovereignty of each state, and the power of
each state to declare it’s own laws,
Congress Hereby Mandates That a list of basic human rights be
created and set down, that each human’s basic rights and
freedoms are protected at all costs, and that the unholy, and
immoral practice of slavery is now and forever banned in all
forms.
Under the Freedom Act, basic human rights shall be defined and
clarified for all citizens of the NCSA, and of the states
belonging to the NCSA. Furthermore, all current slaves in the
NCSA will be freed, and the practice of slavery shall be banned
forevermore.
Section I Each and every citizen of the NCSA, or a state
therein, are guaranteed a list of rights that must be followed.
No state can infringe upon any of these rights during times of
peace, and cannot likewise infringe upon another states’
civilians’ rights. Any state that does shall be brought to court
for their activities.
----------Article I: Each man is guaranteed the freedom of
expression within the NCSA. He has the freedom of speech, the
freedom to choose his own religion, the freedom of movement, the
freedom to assemble peacefully during times of peace, and the
freedom to choose their own life.
----------Article II: No human being may be considered a
commodity. No government, organization, state, law, person, or
policy can make a person the property of another, through any
means. No person may buy, sell, trade, own, or acquire another
person through any means. As such, no value can be placed upon a
person.
----------Article III: Human life is considered precious, and
must be considered. As such, no government, organization, state,
law, person, or policy can conduct mass murder for any reason.
Section II Any and all people who currently are on sale, owned,
sold, or in transit, are to be released from captivity. The
states shall not be punished for the conduct that happened
before hand. All states releasing salves, however, must ease
their transition, as well as compensate them.
#Post#: 9078--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Sparta Date: September 4, 2015, 9:22 am
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"What do you mean compensate our slaves? Must we pay them? They
are already paid for their work!"
#Post#: 9087--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Caos Date: September 4, 2015, 11:09 am
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OOC: Sparta, I'm not sure you understand what slavery is...
IC: "Yes. You must pay them. They were enslaved, and I know they
do not get paid for their work. There would be no reason you buy
them anyway."
#Post#: 9095--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: September 4, 2015, 11:50 am
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OOC: Because in Columbia's system its like a contract of time,
they are "slaves" for however many years and at the end they are
compensated. While this practice sounds good in theory if we
were to have it realistically I feel like it would be abused,
but I suppose Columbia has a perfect infallible system however
improbable that may seem.
#Post#: 9108--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Columbia Confederates Date: September 4, 2015, 12:47 pm
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OOC: Okay slow down on the bills, we kinda need a speaker
present. But, on the issue of "slavery" I don't have slavery. I
have a system based around indentured servitude much like how
your economic system is built around building weapons, Caos. I'm
agricultural you are industrial. We need to respect a state's
culture. But, anyways, if you read my laws Caos you would know
they are mearly addressed as slaves not that they are actually
of so. Slavery is when one is forced into the position, they are
forced to work for free. Indentured servitude is when contracts
are signed, and when the contract is fulfilled then the servants
or "slaves" are given compensation whether it is land, money,
you name it.
"I think you should look into the specifics of our states. Yes
slavery in itself should be abolished, but servitude should not
be. You wish to dismantle the Colombian and Spartan economy."
#Post#: 9110--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: hoffmad08 Date: September 4, 2015, 1:14 pm
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OOC: I understand who this is directed towards, but...
IC: "The wording of this bill appears as if it would too
generally prohibit sports teams from also trading players to one
another. Is this to be so? More importantly however, allowing
for wartime exceptions to these rules sets a dangerous precedent
for perpetual war as a pretext for infringement of basic human
rights."
#Post#: 9112--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: West Phoenicia Date: September 4, 2015, 1:34 pm
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West Phoenicia finds this bill very disturbing. On one hand it
says states have the abilty to make laws but with the
realization point it states " through only constant monitoring
by large states shall they be kept in check."
We have the NCSA government for that. We should not be monitored
by big brother larger states. And larger states is not a proper
definition. Even 1 extra citizen would make it a large state.
Article III is a grey area. States that see abortion as murder
can use this to stop the genocide of life in the womb. And while
we are a pro-life state this will open up a can of worms of
pro-life states challenging states where abortion is legal
clogging up the court system.
Article I will need better explanation as freedom of movement
should not be a right to citizens in prison. And freedom to
choose their own life would again disadvantage states that have
capital punishment.
We motion to table this bill.
#Post#: 9113--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Sparta Date: September 4, 2015, 1:43 pm
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I second the motion
#Post#: 9114--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Caos Date: September 4, 2015, 1:50 pm
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OOC: *rolls my eyes* Oh West Phonecia. When will you stop
misquoting? And there we go again. Selfish people, aren't we?
IC:
"The realization is that, unless specific laws are put in place,
the general populace will do as they please. States like
columbia will buy and sell people as if it was nothing, unless
someone looming over them tells them to stop. This is what is
meant.
"Furthermore, Genocide is the PURPOSEFUL MASS MURDER. How on
earth could Abortion be mistaken for genocide? Are we
specifically aborting only black babies? Only jewish babies?
Only babies born into slavery?
"No, it is understood that criminals are not allowed certain
rights. Under your direct, literal interpretation, should
criminals be given hand guns? Instead of blindly tabling a bill
proposed by someone you don't like, grow some backbone and
suggest changes."
Ascrith waited, and swallowed a drink of water.
"I am sick and tired of you literal people. It is like none of
you have an inch of common sense in you. Can a slave terminate
his contract? No. He cannot. He is forced to work for free until
the end, and at that time, he can be bought and sold without
consideration. A baseball player can take sick days, can go home
and have a life, earns millions, and much more. What does a
slave get? Nothing.
"I supposed, then, that I can edit the war time exception, which
was put in to ONLY limit the movement of citizens during times
of war, and other things related to that. One would not expect
someone to suddenly buy people during war, no?
"Again the representative from Columbia is complaining. Why
would this be about you? This is to abolish every single form of
slavery. If your economy was foolishly based on this horrid
practice, then it is your fault if it collapses."
#Post#: 9119--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Freedom Act
By: Columbia Confederates Date: September 4, 2015, 1:54 pm
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"I agree, we should motion this bill to the table."
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