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#Post#: 8487--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: The Carolina Alliance Date: August 28, 2015, 3:28 pm
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I'm all in favor of this bill. It will definitely improve our
problematic land to people ratio. I do agree that the colony
size limit should be revised, so that there's enough colonies
for everybody.
#Post#: 8488--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Neexus63 Date: August 28, 2015, 5:48 pm
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A bill to allow the establishment of colonies outside of the
NCSA borders.
Recognizing Each state's own sovereignty and right to own land
inside the NCSA borders without contention.
[b]Realizing That colonial expansion is currently deemed
illegal.
Further Realizing That colonial expansion would allow some to
gain an upper hand upon other states economically.
Congress Hereby Mandates the following
(1) The Expansion into territories, north and south, for
economical and militaristic purposes.
(2) The following regions will be allowed to be expanded into,
by agreement with the Congress of the NCSA:
(a) Cuba, West Indies, Bahamas
(b) Philippine Islands
(c) Australia
(d) African Islands and Territories
(e) Canadian Territories
(f) Antarctica
(g) Coastal South America and Mexico
(3) A form must be filed by the state in Congress and approved
in order to moderate colonial expansion, as to not inflict upon
a state's rights and sovereignty, but as to avoid cruel
domination over the lands, such forms shall follow as this.
*We the people of ^enter state name here^, hereby decree the
ownership of the ^Island or specific territory^ for ^economic,
militaristic, multiple^ purposes. We shall comply to the laws of
the state and comply to the colonial laws of the NCSA. We shall
not wage war against fellow state's colonies, but rather work
peacefully together in a league of friendship.*
(4) All Expansions shall be within a 40,000 sq mile limit given
how much land a state currently owns within the NCSA borders.
(a) If a state owns less than the 64,040 sq mile limit
within the border, they may have more than a 40,000 limit in
order to make up for land due to land lock.
(b) That all state's may only have a total land
occupation limit of 104,040 sq miles. [/b]
OOC: You can't just make a bill declaring something legal if
there is already a law against it. You would have two separate
opposing laws! You need to either amend the Map Rules or repeal
it and make a new one.
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#Post#: 8493--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Columbia Confederates Date: August 28, 2015, 6:35 pm
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OOC: Actually it is done all the time in Congress today where
new laws are passed and automatically replace other laws. But
you're right I'd need to add something in to acknowledge it.
#Post#: 8494--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Caos Date: August 28, 2015, 6:36 pm
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OOC: But that's not how it's done here, Columbia.
#Post#: 8497--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Columbia Confederates Date: August 28, 2015, 6:39 pm
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OOC: Of course it's not...well let me know when their is a
specific piece of legislation or the Constitution which claims
laws can be overturned, which they can.
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Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Caos Date: August 28, 2015, 6:40 pm
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OOC: We use a different form of government. Specifically, I
believe it's Robert's Rules.
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Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Neexus63 Date: August 28, 2015, 6:43 pm
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OOC: How? Can you explain how by passing a law, it overturns a
previous law which it comes in conflict in?
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Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Columbia Confederates Date: August 28, 2015, 6:45 pm
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OOC: No I just said that I should add in an acknowledgment of
the previous law. If you add in the acknowledgment of the
previous law it can in essence turn it over. Of course unless
you'd rather have a whole session dedicated to a vote on whether
or not to overturn that law. But your right, this law currently
can't so it needs to be edited.
#Post#: 8508--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Columbia Confederates Date: August 29, 2015, 11:56 am
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OOC: The Land Claim Act 2015 doesn't forbid expansion or
colonies. Section 1 declares how much a state can hold so say
the state of Columbia and my current borders. That's referring
to state's not colonies. Section 2 refers to Islands and water
spacing of STATES again not colonies. Section 3 states that no
state can take land away from another state through force or war
but through peace. Section 4 says that the Secretary of Interior
approves state land claims. This doesn't contradict that law at
all. In fact I include that all colonies will be monitored,
contained, and allowed only through and by congress.
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Re: [IC Bill] Colonial and Imperialistic Expansion
By: Caos Date: August 29, 2015, 3:28 pm
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OOC: Yes, it actually contradicts it INCREDIBLY.
[quote]A State may role play one additional expansion in
addition to its free expansion. This expansion is limited to
16,010 sq mi (41,465.5 km2).[/quote]
That is the last expansion you can make. Expansions are also
limited by: [quote] All territory that is owned by a single
state must be contiguous, and may not be separated by another
state, unclaimed land, or any body of water larger than Lake
Superior.[/quote]
This literally means that you cannot claim territory that is
farther away than the longest part of Lake Superior. As such,
you cannot claim a colony ANYWHERE. If you're landlocked, you're
doomed. You can't expand beyond your boundaries, or your
expansion.
And if it is illegal?
[quote]If a state is found to have more land than is legally
acceptable, it may be taken to court in order to settle the
discrepancy.[/quote]
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