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       #Post#: 6439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: West Phoenicia Date: August 14, 2015, 10:29 am
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       You were quick to bring up the Speaker appointment.  You could
       have called for impeachment of the do nothing Supreme Court
       Justices during the same time.
       Seems all we hear from the state of Gondor is I could have...
       or I will see to that. Doesn't get done.
       Does Mr Speaker have a character name yet?  We need to know his
       name
       #Post#: 6442--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Heavenly Paradise Date: August 14, 2015, 10:35 am
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       Well, I have done some things as I've pointed piut, but consider
       this: CSM went inactive, who is founder, chief justice, and
       speaker. That puts a monkey wrench in everything. I called for
       rhe speaker's replacement first of all because we need a working
       Congress. I also and trying to replace SOI. Understand that I am
       both President AND the only mod here, and I am trying to get the
       nation through a possible civil war. This isn't all my fault.
       Everything just went to crap all at once amd apparently I am the
       scapegoat when I am the one who has to hold this place together
       while the rest of you bicker about rps. Put yourself in my shoes
       and walk a mile WP. I'm sure that you would.find it all to be a
       stinging pain in the ass.
       #Post#: 6443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: West Phoenicia Date: August 14, 2015, 10:39 am
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       And your constant siding with one member here has caused a
       fragment of members to feel isolated and not heard.  Im not
       laying all the blame at your feet. But you added fuels to the
       fire unfortunately.
       I didnt say you were a bad mod. You're getting  better. But as
       NCSA President YOUR character has failed. Not you.
       #Post#: 6495--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Caos Date: August 14, 2015, 3:25 pm
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       WP...
       Only CONGRESS can help you with the military issue. And as of
       right now, I'm saying no, we're not helping you. We're in a
       defensive war. I'm sorry, but because you didn't get help
       doesn't mean you can attempt to restructure the entire
       government just because you don't A. like Gondor, or B. get what
       you want. RPs happen. Leaders get assassinated. You're throwing
       a tantrum because you don't like this.
       [quote]1. Inactivity, granted he has been on the forum. But if
       issue at the moment has been to elect a new speaker it has been
       over 36 hours since a vote was cast for or against the
       nomination that should have been wrapped up. Instead that like
       the bills loom in limbo.
       2. Unseemly behavior,  this can be taken in many ways.  His
       failure as President to act. He is the the Higest level of
       leadership. His Defence Minister acted without any postal proof
       and executed the Vice President.   So far no repurcussions
       3. West Phoenicia had been unjustly attacked. And the President
       has not acted to protect a state that was unjustifiably
       attacked. In fact the President hasnt said much at all.
       4. Unseemly behavior as a President instead of calling for calm
       and trying to approach things diplomatically you have states
       preparing for war. When the subject has not been discussed in
       Congress. Its as if he is ignoring Congress.
       5. 3 Justices have barely said a peep. There is no Supreme Court
       Justices as they are  not active. Failure to recognize this
       sooner and act.
       6. Failure to notify of change of rules ( there was always an
       unspoken agreement on the old forum that a states main rp were
       untouched unless agreed upon by both parties. Suddenly that
       changed with some knowing (the aggressors) and the left left in
       the dark. Yes we rp but again there was also forewarning so
       parties could prepare. Now it seems once you are in anything can
       happen and you cant dispute it. This is not just a failure on
       Gondors part but more of a region not to properly provide
       information for all players.
       If anything is allowed to happen without making parties involved
       aware it leads to caos. For example we just have to keep
       assassinating Presidents (cause everyone is game) and no longer
       will filbusters would be needed  to stall a bill all you have to
       do is execute the current speaker.
       While we harbour no ill feeling towards the State of Gondor. We
       find nothing is getting done. When you look at the picture to
       include occ also their is growing tensions with a number of
       states who feel they are not being heard. Double
       standards.[/quote]
       1. Says the person who never actually gets on except to bash
       someone, complain, or just not agree to anything because xyz.
       Gondor does what he can with only two people in his cabinet.
       Like you could do better.
       2. Yeah, you're blaming the President for other people's issues?
       I like that part. Very very nice, professional, and mature.
       Sounds desperate. Oh btw, guess what? Vladimir Karmarov is not
       the defense minister. He's a military leader. Guess what? I
       don't need proof to shoot someone in war. Sounds harsh but based
       on what you're saying, I need proof to even order my men to fire
       on someone. Anyone. Got a bunch of soldiers on a line? Welp, I
       need a warrant to fire. Forget the fact that it's a war.
       Assassinations are assassinations. They don't need proof. They
       don't need anything but an order.
       3. Ooookay, well guess what? You unjustly attacked the
       government in one of your posts before. Then retracted it. Now
       you're invaded. Then you retract it. Then you get pissy. Then
       you want the President to do something because you got your
       panties in a twist? Sounds professional, once again. Might I ask
       why you're ignoring the fact that you can only plead to CONGRESS
       TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR ISSUE, and EVEN THEN THE SOD NEEDS TO
       APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT'S HIS TROOPS? You at one point tried to
       remove all of your soldiers from the NCSA military and order
       them to attack their comrades. Don't give this BS about wanting
       retaliation and unseemingly behavior. If left to you, you'd get
       offended at every twist, turn, and dip and ask that everyone be
       banned because you got butthurt, then dish out that butthurt.
       4. It's as if you're ignoring congress as well, buddy. That's
       not unseemingly behavior. He has asked for peace. He was going
       for peace. Maybe you don't read anything except that which
       supports you, but he was. What subject? Stuff's being debated
       right now.
       5. Congrats on the justices. You JUST noticed this right now.
       How hypocritical.
       6. That's not his problem. If it was, then it would've been MY
       problem. Read the constitution. Did you find what you wanted?
       NO. This region started over. As such, SO DID EVERYTHING. So
       grow up.
       7. [quote]If anything is allowed to happen without making
       parties involved aware it leads to caos.[/quote]
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       Here's how to spell CHAOS. There's the H key. I suggest you use
       it.
       8. [quote]For example we just have to keep assassinating
       Presidents (cause everyone is game) and no longer will
       filbusters would be needed  to stall a bill all you have to do
       is execute the current speaker.
       While we harbour no ill feeling towards the State of Gondor. We
       find nothing is getting done. When you look at the picture to
       include occ also their is growing tensions with a number of
       states who feel they are not being heard. Double
       standards.[/quote]
       Well, when you have no real evidence of unseemly behavior, you
       DO have ill feelings. You don't really hear other states. You
       just want yourself to be heard.
       #Post#: 6503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Aquatur Date: August 14, 2015, 6:45 pm
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       Honestly, in terms of impeachment, you dont need a "bill". I
       mean, Gondor didn't.
       #Post#: 6504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Heavenly Paradise Date: August 14, 2015, 6:47 pm
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       OOC: I know. I realized that and said so.
       #Post#: 6505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Heavenly Paradise Date: August 14, 2015, 6:49 pm
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       [quote]OOC: I actually gave a speech in July about Enduranca and
       some wars that were going on, so I did give an address.
       IC: "Mr. Speaker, I believe I have made a mistake. Impeachment
       isn't legislation, and therefore is not bound by this law. I
       apologize."[/quote]
       #Post#: 6506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Aquatur Date: August 14, 2015, 6:50 pm
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       Okay
       #Post#: 6507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: West Phoenicia Date: August 14, 2015, 8:45 pm
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       And again Caos pops up to show  no disregard on realism.  You
       said only Congress can help with military intervention and you
       said no we are not helping you?
       So you speak for all of Congress now?
       #Post#: 6508--------------------------------------------------
       Re: IC/OOC Motion for a vote of No confidence in the Current NCS
       A President 
       By: Caos Date: August 14, 2015, 8:49 pm
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       I speak for the military. In this case, even IF congress decided
       that your hypocritical pleas were valid, we COULDN'T give you
       anything. There are no troops to give you, and because of bias,
       we wouldn't give you any of the ones you donated. Simply put,
       there is no way we can help you. Frankly, you're a big boy. You
       can deal with it on your own. You just want to make a political
       fool out of Sparta. If you think he can't do anything as you
       always say, back it up. You don't need Huggies. You're a BIG boy
       now.
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