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       #Post#: 6225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: August 10, 2015, 8:12 pm
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       All the targets would be hit, though....
       #Post#: 6226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: West Phoenicia
       Date: August 10, 2015, 8:33 pm
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       Not necessarily.
       And what targets are you referring to?
       Sparta bombers never left New Tudor City he posted so himself.
       So while he hit military installations which I mentioned the
       WPAF base is in Ashkelon,  New Tudor.
       Its getting tiring that any of my hits are not counting in your
       eyes and all of Sparta are. We know you are allies but he is not
       invincible .  End of the day you don't control what is hit when
       its not you in the rp.
       #Post#: 6227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: August 10, 2015, 8:42 pm
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       Okay, here's how I know you were never in any service at all.
       That post. That post exactly.
       Missiles operate DIFFERENTLY than bombs. There's a HUGE
       difference. Missiles are guided, they rely upon information fed
       into them by the sensors, which is processed into the computer,
       and then the missile makes a decision. That can be changed when
       the system is messed with. Bombs, on the other hand, do not have
       to deal with that. You simply drop and there it goes. Nothing
       will stop it now.
       Targeting equipment on strategic and tactical bombers have
       evolved TREMENDOUSLY overtime. In 1944 it would take dozens of
       bombers to hit four buildings, and even then it was iffy. Today,
       it takes one F-16 strike aircraft to take out four targets, and
       all four targets would be hit. There are so many OTHER factors
       dictating accuracy here, too. Some bombs can be programmed to
       glide to their target via GPS and inertial guidance. On that
       same point, bombs can also be guided via laser guidance on the
       planes. Yes. Planes can guide their own bombs.
       Cluster bombs don't need to be accurate, but they can be. In his
       case, he deployed cluster bombs that would open between 300 or
       3000 feet. Those will hit their targets, considering the targets
       are buildings. If he's terror bombing, then he doesn't NEED a
       specific target; the entire city is his target.
       Now, he also was aiming for your ships with naval cruise
       missiles. Your ships are not moving, and your ships in port are
       not on a state of alert. In fact, they really shouldn't be
       manned. If you were ever in the armed service, you'd understand
       that.
       Your artillery hit. That's for sure. Your missiles, and maybe
       some shells, hit their targets. Sparta messed that up. But that
       one missile doesn't necessarily need to hit it's target. When
       the target and the weapon are moving, lots of factors come into
       play. So be patient. Recognize the difficulties, and try to
       understand what's going on here, okay?
       #Post#: 6229--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: West Phoenicia
       Date: August 10, 2015, 9:05 pm
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       You would have had me understanding until you clearly just
       disrespected my time in the service.
       1. I never said his bombs did not hit my city. But he only
       attacked the New Tudor City. I said he hit the army base but he
       and yiu want more. Bad luck not all military installations are
       in one place
       and I had previously rp that my navy was under going exercises
       they were manned. And again Sparta made his initial post with
       the false assumption my people were standing there doing
       nothing. Wrong.  The navy would have seen him coming and
       reacted. We ars not just sit there and let him attack us without
       doing anything. He added so much in one post without
       acknowledging there were other people playing. So the Navy
       scenario is fine.
       #Post#: 6230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: August 10, 2015, 9:39 pm
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       Your entire navy would not be active and alert, but I see your
       point. Which is why you have an advantage here:
       You have a great deal of aircraft and ships OUT of port. He
       doesn't know that. He technically bypassed them, since you said
       they were at Texas. Well, he went straight from Panama to you.
       That's quite a lot of space between Texas, him, and you. But now
       you can recall your troops.
       Okay, so that was over the line. In fairness, you probably
       weren't briefed on what I was saying. That's fine. But just
       because I insulted you doesn't make me less right.
       No, I assumed you meant his bombs wouldn't hit their targets.
       That's a misunderstanding on my part.
       #Post#: 6231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: West Phoenicia
       Date: August 10, 2015, 9:51 pm
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       I never said my navy was at full alert. I have multiple navy
       installations. Many are involved in the navy exercise of
       readiness.
       The ships near Texas are like 4 ships. I do have a large navy
       ships in most port cities as mentioned in my fact book.
       Aircraft and naval vessels spread throughout my nation which is
       split into 24 city state. He attacked New Tudor, an agricultural
       state.
       There was a line. It was crossed. I was a Medic. I have no clue
       about weapon systems. My duty was to heal. As the army was one
       of the biggest changes in that part of my life. It was a huge
       turning point to have someone slam it who has not been in and
       question it is one of the lowest forms someone can mention and
       do it so rudely.
       I have emailed Gondor advising my posts on this forum will be
       drastically reduced.
       #Post#: 6232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Heavenly Paradise
       Date: August 10, 2015, 10:05 pm
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       Caos, you do not know what capacity he served in, and regardless
       of his rp skills, you insulting his service to his country is
       absolutely unacceptable. That is a very deep and rather crude
       insult, one that can cut to the bone, metaphorically speaking.
       You crossed the line. You've gone too far. Enough with the
       insulting. You literally are the reason that he will no longer
       rp here except for keeping his state active. I am sure that he
       served his country, and I thank him for it! Any defender of
       freedom, regardless of nationality deserves respect for their
       great sacrifices. You should know that. You will be punished.
       #Post#: 6235--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: August 10, 2015, 10:23 pm
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       Okay no, I will not take this.
       You tell me I insulted your service? Well how about you stop
       hiding behind it. The past times I told you you were wrong, you
       snapped back with "Well I served, I'm sorry, I didn't know you
       read Tom Clancy!" Like you KNEW everything. Then the second I
       tell you you're wrong I'm suddenly insulting your service? It's
       alright for you to act like you know everything BECAUSE you
       served, but when I told you that's wrong you get pissed?
       #Post#: 6236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Heavenly Paradise
       Date: August 10, 2015, 10:29 pm
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       It is not WP you have to answer to. It is me. You clearly said
       that he didn't serve just because of a post. That is an
       unsubstantiated opinion that you cannot prove. I will give WP
       the benefit of the doubt on that one.
       #Post#: 6238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCSA Civil War OOC
   DIR By: Sparta
       Date: August 10, 2015, 10:32 pm
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       Gondor you are making a terrible mistake. If you do this I don't
       know if I can remain in this region. WP is CLEARLY the issue
       here. This coming from Caos's biggest/former rival.
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