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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: August 4, 2015, 3:47 pm
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       Check my reasearch page breh, already there
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Aquatur Date: August 4, 2015, 3:48 pm
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       This is the second civil war this region has had I think.
       probably more. Lol, imagine if this was some annual thing.
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: August 4, 2015, 7:44 pm
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       But in fairness WP such a precaution is a good thing, what
       happens to the fairness if the NCSA troops stationed in your
       state go rogue? It's better to hand them off to the Sec Def,
       although in this time of Civil War, it seems "Eh" to me that
       people would stay to fight against their state. Or at least the
       majority.
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Caos Date: August 4, 2015, 7:59 pm
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       I meant to...
       crap.
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: West Phoenicia Date: August 4, 2015, 8:05 pm
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       West Phoenicia has always supported West Phoenicia interests as
       best they can.
       there was no swearing in ceremony.  I also insisted that all
       West Phoenicia troops donated remain under leadership of West
       Phoenicians. Caos was happy to accommodate that.
       we are not a left wing hippy nation we would not turn on our
       own.
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: August 4, 2015, 8:18 pm
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       Even still DEN comprises a lot as well, and I have a army, so
       does everyone really. It's constitutionally mandated.
       #Post#: 5704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: West Phoenicia Date: August 4, 2015, 8:28 pm
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       It was never actioned.  He cannot assume that he alone will have
       sole control over the NCSA military.  While he did a brilliant
       job in creating it. It does not give him authority over all
       personnel.
       In times of civil war.  Even if they did swear an oath. Really
       is meaningless.
       #Post#: 5706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: August 4, 2015, 8:30 pm
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       No I concede to that point, but I find it hard that every single
       one of those men and women are die hard patriots that would be
       okay with being persecuted for treason if they defected. Or if
       they would so willingly betray the comrades they now have
       (maybe) found.
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: West Phoenicia Date: August 4, 2015, 8:33 pm
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       As long as the Generals are die hard patriots. Thats all that
       matters. Most of the time people will just follow orders.
       Look at what happened in Waco. ATF agents killing innocent men,
       women and children.
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       Re: The Columiban Retaliation OOC
       By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: August 4, 2015, 8:40 pm
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       I don't think that comparison is accurate here, I had to Google
       what it was. I would think most soldiers would oppose orders on
       moral standings.
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