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[BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Caos Date: July 11, 2015, 5:30 pm
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Acknowledging Each state's own soveriegnity, ability to
apprehend criminals, and to detain them in their own right,
Realizing That many people break confederal laws (such as
political leaders), that upon apprehension of some confederal
criminals there is no place to put them, and that some leaders
may not want to put them there,
Recognizing The need for a standardized, Confederally controlled
Confederal Prison and Police system, and that some states will
purposefully withhold prisoners for political reasons,
Congress Hereby Mandates The creation and organization of two
police forces, and the movement of power to a third, and the
creation of a new military unit. Furthermore, the creation of a
set of low to maximum security prisons in each state for
prisoners of war, confederal prisoners, and holdings. It
furthermore allows for the use of antiterrorist forces in
confederal lands.
[list]
[li]Section A: Creation and Power Distribution[/li]
[list]
[li]Three additional police forces will be created from the
bill. These will have two different powers, but have
jurisdiction over the same areas. These two are as follows:[/li]
[list]
[li]Confederal Bureau of Investigation (CBI)[/li]
[list]
[li]The CBI is called in when prisoners jump borders, or run
across states. They are based in the Confederal Capitol, and
have jurisdiction over every state except the Capitol.
Furthermore, they are better armed than normal INTERPOL, and are
better armored, and have access to Interior Guard
equipment.[/li]
[li]The CBI does not have the authority to arrest political
leaders in their home country, but can intercept and apprehend
them out of state. Furthermore, they can be turned away by the
state in question on the account of people jumping borders. They
cannot, however, be turned away from entering as people, or
entering the INTERPOL stations. [/li]
[/list]
[li]Interstate Police (INTERPOL)[/li]
[list]
[li]The Interstate Police is a police force that is present in
every state as an immediate police force. These police only have
jurisdiction in that state, and can only apprehend Confederal
Fugitives who broke confederal law.[/li]
[li]They have the authority to investigate political leaders,
team up with state police to investigate other things, and can
apprehend non political leaders, such as congressmen and
parliamentary officials. High ranking officials cannot be
captured, but can be investigated, questioned, and detained for
questioning.[/li]
[/list]
[/list]
[li]An additional distribution of power will be extended to the
Home Guard, which will have additional jurisdiction, in addition
to it's current jurisdiction over the Capitol.[/li]
[list]
[li]Home Guard (HG, SS)[/li]
[list]
[li]The Home Guard will be given further jurisdiction over all
states. They have power over each police force, and can
cooperate with state militaries to hunt down terrorists. They
are an Anti Terrorist unit.[/li]
[li]Unlike INTERPOL and the CBI, the Home Guard does not require
a warrant to search and sieze, only probably cause and reason.
They do, however, require to be called in by either the CBI,
INTERPOL, state governments, the Interior Guard, the military,
or by the Secretary of Defense. The President has no
jurisdiction over the SS.[/li]
[li]The SS has the ability to arrest political figures and
leaders regardless of power, including political leaders of the
NCSA. Furthermore, they can arrest military leaders. When
arresting, they can only hold them for a certain amount of time
before they need a warrant to keep them. They can also travel
across borders, and have sole jurisdiction of the Capitol.[/li]
[/list]
[li]Military Police (MP)[/li]
[list]
[li]Military Police do not have any of the powers as the others,
and have jurisdiction over the Confederal Prisons, Bases, and
POW Camps. They are a new military branch.[/li]
[li]MPs have no power besides the ability to arrest people
inside the base, camp, or prison. Furthermore, each warden of
the prison or camp is a member of he military command. This
means that they do have the ability to arrest people within
ground space of the base: For instance, they can control the
roads around the prisons and camps and bases.[/li]
[/list]
[/list]
[/list]
[li]Section B: Prisons[/li]
[list]
[li]Every State is required to hold at least one Confederal
Prison in it's boundaries. This is to be manned by MPs.
Furthermore, each state must require to hold at least one
INTERPOL station. POW camps maybe established, but states must
request to hold one. Polticial leaders will be held in POW camps
for maximum security and to prevent states from breaking them
out.[/li]
[li]The prisons are to have the following configuration: [/li]
[list]
[li]A Maximum Security Partition[/li]
[list]
[li]Must be located underground, in it's own fenced off area,
given priority power, with it's own high powered station and
backup generators for each section.[/li]
[li]All prison sections will be located underground, with
cameras in each section and a vent in each cell. The cell is
sealed against all NBC, and is essentially inside a a large
bunker. Each cell has a vent that is connected to a chemical
system that can release an agent to subdue prisoners.[/li]
[li]Each prisoner is fed inside their cell, and cannot leave the
cell.[/li]
[li]There is a total of 500 cells[/li]
[li]There is two bunker offshoots underground: A police watch
station, and the elevator. Every police officer is tracked,
recorded, and given a gas mask. Each door can not be unlocked
with a special key, a card, a fingerprint, and a passcode, which
changes each week. To further security, cameras will be
installed at each cell, and at each door and hallway.[/li]
[/list]
[li]A Medium Security Partition[/li]
[list]
[li]Cells for 2,000 people, with an interior generator and
gym[/li]
[li]A set of walls with barbed wire.[/li]
[li]An onsite cafeteria[/li]
[/list]
[li]A Light Security Partition[/li]
[list]
[li]An outdoor gym, and a cafeteria.[/li]
[li]A program for public work[/li]
[/list]
[li]A large laundry service that is worked by light security
prisoners[/li]
[li]A mail service worked by prisoners[/li]
[li]An onsite hospital[/li]
[li]An onsite phsyco ward[/li]
[li]An onsite power plant[/li]
[li]A solitary confinement center[/li]
[/list]
[li]POW Camps must have the following:[/li]
[list]
[li]A large concrete wall with razor wire arranged in an
octagon, and eight watch towers with four searchlights, and four
MG stations[/li]
[li]Two layers of wire fence with barbed wire[/li]
[li]An Anti Personel minefield[/li]
[li]Room for 5,000[/li]
[li]Indoor barracks, showers, cafeteria, and prison cells, with
a set for solitary confinement[/li]
[li]It's own generator backup system[/li]
[li]A guarded Armory, MP barracks, MP cafeteria, MP Kitchen, MP
Showers, and MP Garage, surrounded by fencing and razor
wire[/li]
[li]An onsite power plant[/li]
[li]Four heli pads[/li]
[/list]
[li]INTERPOL stations must have the following:[/li]
[list]
[li]A helipad[/li]
[li]A detainment and question center[/li]
[li]An onsite armory and garage[/li]
[li]An onsite CBI location[/li]
[/list]
[/list]
[li]Section C: Trial and Jury[/li]
[list]
[li]To detain a person, most cases need warranties prescribed by
judges of the Confederal Courts. Smaller cases will never reach
the Supreme Court, but the leaders of countries will.[/li]
[/list]
[/list]
#Post#: 4014--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: July 11, 2015, 5:43 pm
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This bill encroaches on state sovereignty. To mandate that
states give any confederal agency a station takes away the
rights of that state to do what it pleases without governmental
interference, to a point. Also to give Home guard jurisdiction
over all states does not take the wants or consent of that state
into account.
#Post#: 4015--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: July 11, 2015, 6:05 pm
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I am hesitant to support this bill, as my state has a very low
crime rate and a forgiving legal system. The institution of
Maximum security prisons seems to restrictive, and would
question as who would be help there that needs such precautions,
and the use of mines around POW camps seems borderline
anti-humanitarian. Although it is not a major part of my issue,
minefields can last for a very long time, and the exact
placement of said mines can be forgotten and could lead to
unnecessary causalities to both the prisoners and staff of the
camps. To protect this bill from being unconstitutional I would
suggest the change of construction from Mandatory to Optional,
as this would only effect those who support and want these
ideas, however the construction of such facilities in Richmond I
would not be opposed to as this is within the Confederacy's
power to do. INTERPOL should not be a mandated part of the
Confederate government as it has no such power over States,
cooperation in the apprehension of criminals between local state
governments should be ideal and supported voluntarily between
those who support this bill. The formation of a MP force however
is appreciated as it is needed in this time that we are forming
a National Confederate Army and I find it appropriate to have a
different security force in charge of the security of military
installations, however the use of MPs to provide security of
Confederate Prisons is approached with skepticism by myself and
brings into question the separation of our military and our
government.
#Post#: 4021--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: West Phoenicia Date: July 11, 2015, 6:44 pm
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States should not feel forced to have an interpol station. That
is the government forcing its will on the states.
Prisoners also have rights. To keep them in their cells with no
chance for recreation time for even half an hour is a human
rights abuse.
There does not need to be CBI and Interpol. Just wasteful
resources. Both can just be combined.
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Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Caos Date: July 11, 2015, 7:31 pm
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"Speaking frankly, I think not a single man in here knows what
infringing on a state's rights is. As part of a confederacy, the
state agreed that once in a while, the Confederal Government,
us, would be given a higher power. I cannot quote exactly, but
in essence, we can make laws regulating certain things. We can
make a military... Good. We can make a state pay taxes. That's
not making a state unsoveriegn, is it? No? Okay. So...
"This bill makes a state build two buildings.. Minimum, which
the confederal government funds and constructs. I did not
mention anything about telling a state he cannot make, create,
organize, find, tax, or anything like that. I did not take away.
The police are only there for one reason: INTERPOL: to catch
confederal prisoners. CBI: To find and catch confederal
criminals or men who run across states. The 'Jurisdiction'
applies to the area in which they operate. For security reasons,
the home guard was given jurisdiction over the entire NCSA. Why?
They are an antiterrorist unit. They NEED to operate everywhere.
"Now, the only valid concern I've seen here was the concern
about minefields. I believe that can be worked with, no? We can
either remove them... Or make a dedicated map of the field." He
said, and turned to the WP rep.
"Forcing the will? We made a tax. We made it illegal to secede.
We have a constitution that 'forces' your state to be fair to
citizens... To not deny trade, and to not deny travel, and you
call this 'Imposing of will'? I do not think you have read this
well enough. Please... Read it and instead of being childish and
opposing it because it is proposed by a Namenian. If you would
care to back up your claims instead of simply sprouting it like
a seed, maybe it would be valid. But we have a military that can
deploy IN STATE, yet you did not speak out about 'imposing a
will'. What makes this 'Imposing a will'? Do ALL laws do that,
as it FORCES a state to follow it? What if DEN broke every
confederal law? Who would have the power to remove Maximus? You?
Me?
"We shall make an amendment based on the prisoner deal, however.
What would you suggest?"
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Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: July 11, 2015, 7:43 pm
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You make a very strong point friend, and it pleases me that the
minefields can be negotiated, however I would like an official
list of charges that would incur jail time for each sentence. If
those findings are reasonable I will formally second this bill.
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Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Caos Date: July 11, 2015, 7:54 pm
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Those would depend upon severity of the crime, and upon the man.
For instance... Rape (if it was Confederal) would be light
security, but a man who is massive, aggressive, or extremely
smart would not stay in light. But yes. A list should be made."
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Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Confederacy of Turkducken Date: July 11, 2015, 8:04 pm
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I will hold my seconding of the bill until such a list is made,
as it stands the Representative from DEN has convinced me to
support this bill.
#Post#: 4031--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: kimondt Date: July 11, 2015, 9:08 pm
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alinograd seconds this bill.
#Post#: 4032--------------------------------------------------
Re: [BILL-IC] Interpol Act
By: Highland Appalachia Date: July 11, 2015, 9:41 pm
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I'm reluctant to officially support this bill, not that I doubt
it's good intentions. However, it will be a cold day in hell
when I allow a minefield to be constructed within my borders, so
I'm glad that is negotiable. As for the treatment of maximum
security prisoners, I have the same reservations as his
excellency of Turkducken. The way I look at it, either shoot
them or not, but to put a man in a box with no natural light for
years is just tantamount to torture. As for a regional
anti-terror unit, we are perfectly capable or responding to such
threats within our nation, but we understand the bigger picture
and will acquiesce, though we will have our own independent
counter-terrorism unit. Regarding the buildings, as long as the
government will pay for the cost and maintenance of these
facilities, we do not object. Can we expect a rent payment for
the use of the land directly to our governments?
In short, we approve of this bill in spirit, but wish to learn
more before we formally commit.
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