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Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: June 26, 2015, 10:39 pm
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"If a state knowingly as WMDs but will not register them, then I
will send in the National Military to force them to register
them or lose them. I will not allow our nation to live in fear
of nations secretly harboring WMDs. The states have the right to
keep and bear arms, but not to destroy the NCSA on a single
whim.
I again affirm that states should not be able to reject a bill
passed by Congress. For example, by being a state, WP consents
to be subject to all laws passed by Congress, as Congress is the
supreme legislative body in the NCSA. This is not a matter of
disrespecting a state's sovereignty, but enforcing the rule of
law that all states must adhere to. If a state should see a law
as negative, they can again challenge it in the Supreme Court,
or they can lobby their Congressional Representatives to pass
legislation overturning the undesired law. The job of Congress
is to make the national laws for the NCSA, and if we allow a
single state to nullify a law, then that opens the door for all
states to nullify laws, making the purpose of a national
Congress moot.In a sense allowing nullification would also
render the Constitution useless, because the Constitution
established the Congress and gave it a special purpose that
holds the fabric of our nation together. In order to have a
unified and strong nation, we must make sure that we have the
same laws and standards across the board, otherwise we will
become more divided than they already are. The states are not so
sovereign that they are their own nations, able to defy Richmond
and make their own laws willy nilly. To prevent the corruption
you mentioned among Supreme Court Justices from happening, I
propose that we make the Justices elected by the populace, so
that they have the interests of the People and not the President
at heart. The Justices should also be replaced at the end of
every two terms, so that lifelong power doesn't get to their
heads.
The Volunteer Prison Labor Act is an interesting law. It has
been called slavery by parties in the past due to the amount of
labor, but I disagree. It is not slavery because the prisoners
are not forced to do it. I see it as beneficial because it helps
the criminals pay their debt to society whilst improving
infrastructure and stimulating economic growth. I see it as a
viable alternative to my original plan and would say that it
should be taken in due consideration for being the solution in
all states nationwide.
My view on political parties is that they are what has been
dividing us for so long. We have for so long taken two or more
sides and have not budged on our beliefs at all, causing
political deadlock and bringing about more problems than were
ever at the start. It has also caused monopolies which cause the
voices of the minorities to be drowned out. You need only look
at parties like the NeoConfederate Conservative Party and the
Free State Alliance to find this out. There may be brief periods
of equality between the parties, but it will never last. That
being said, I do lean more politically conservative despite
being an independent.
Yes, you're right. The rich do provide more money to help the
NCSA. I never stated that I supported taxing them higher. I said
that we are all equals, so I will tax the rich at the same rate
as the poor, but proportional to their income amounts. For
example, if the income tax for a middle class person is 10% of
their specific income, then a rich person will also be taxed 10%
of their specific income. But those are just hypothetical rates,
keep that in mind. That is the way that I see as equal. Everyone
pays out the same rate, but only as much as is proportional to
the amount of income that they make. A flat tax, if you will."
#Post#: 2533--------------------------------------------------
Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Sparta Date: June 27, 2015, 1:30 pm
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"If a state has WMDs and refuses to register them I will first
gain a warrant from the Supreme Court to seize them. I will
after gaining this ultimatum then give the offending state 24
hours to register all of them or the WMDs will be seized and
forcibly registered. In this way I would legally go about
enforcing this law instead of forcing my way in and disregarding
the states rights.
1) I will help this party grow in government by being a role
model and creating a good image of the Antebellum Party by being
a great and efficient President. I would also, with the help of
the Antebellum Party, hope to pass many bills through Congress
that would show the nation as a whole that the Antebellum Party
is efficient and ready to lead the NeoConfederate States to its
glory once again. In this way the party will appeal more to the
people of each state and we would gain more members. It also
wouldn't be using my position in the wrong way because I'm doing
everything to push the NCSA back to the top.
2) Sparta has indeed gained the reputation of being a
warmongerer. I believe in state's rights, and because of this I
will let Sparta do what it pleases as long as it does not
endanger the NCSA or any particular state. I will expect the
state of Sparta to follow the regional laws and I will enforce
them vigorously. Should a war break out, I will let it play out
unless the defender requests government help against the
aggressor. I would then immediately request permission from
Congress to deploy the National Military and protect the
defender. Even if that means crushing my home state I will do it
if necessary to help the NCSA as a whole. We cannot tolerate
needless aggression and I will act swiftly and stamp out the
aggression. Is there anything else?"
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Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: June 27, 2015, 1:42 pm
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Mr. Kennady, the only problem with getting a warrant from the
Supreme Court is that it is just a piece of paper. A state could
simply deny you entrance by use of force. Not only that, but
when a state defies a national law, it is paramount to rebellion
or insurrection, and that is where the lines blur between
sovereignty and defiance. The National Military is the efficient
way to enforce the law, and it is not illegal to use it. When a
state is in rebellion, it practically forfeits its membership as
a legitimate state, and therefore has no sovereignty. "
#Post#: 2536--------------------------------------------------
Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Sparta Date: June 27, 2015, 1:52 pm
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"That piece of paper carries the force of the entire NCSA upon
it. That in itself should be enough to the offending state to
back down. If the state doesn't back down after the warrant is
issued then the might of the National Military shall fall upon
that state. In this way we wouldn't offend a state's rights, and
would go about it in the legal way. We also wouldn't know if the
state does defiantly have WMDs. They may say they do as a way to
deter state's to attack them. So if your plan of action went
through you would be barging in on the state's land without a
legal reason. You'd be breaking the nation's laws. In my way we
have a legal reason to enter the state. Even if it is just a
piece of paper we have a legal reason and wouldn't break the
law. Explain to me why you reason it is better to break the
nation's law and barge in without legal reason?" Kennady says.
#Post#: 2537--------------------------------------------------
Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: June 27, 2015, 1:54 pm
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"Actually, Mr. Kennady, I believe you are right. After due
consideration of the Constitution, a warrant would actually be
needed to take the weapons. I am not trying to violate state
sovereignty as you have so often mentioned, but for all my
knowledge I am not perfect."
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Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: June 27, 2015, 1:59 pm
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"But let me also add that when talking about warrants, the
Constitution refers to the people, and not to the states. So the
lines of getting a warrant are quite blurred. It may or may not
be legal. So I actually may not be breaking the law with my
plan. I am not so out to get the states as you think, Spartan."
#Post#: 2539--------------------------------------------------
Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Sparta Date: June 27, 2015, 2:06 pm
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"Please use my name. We are here to debate not to call names Mr.
Gray. Now, the Constitution does refer to the people but this
also carries over to the people in charge of each state. These
weapon's are owned by the people of the state so we would need a
warrant to seize them. At least if we would like to do this
legally. Now, I would like to ask you Mr. Gray. What will you do
if a nuclear war breaks out between states?" Kennady says.
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Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: June 27, 2015, 2:15 pm
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"I was not the one who started this bashing, Mr. Kennady. You
attacked me and my policies before everything began, saying that
I am against state's rights and all. Then again, you may need a
warrant, or you may not. I would leave that up to the Supreme
Court to decide, due to the fact that the People and the States
are often addressed differently in the Constitution. You say
that this is the only way to do things legally, yet the
Constitution is not clear. Especially since when referring to
people the Constitution may just be talking about your average
Joe. You see, when we get to talking about things like the
leaders of states, the leaders do not actually own these
weapons. It is not their personal property, but the property of
the military of that state and of the collective government of
that state, rather than the people as individuals. If a nuclear
war ever broke out, I would step in, as the Constitution says to
protect the states from Domestic Violence and invasion."
#Post#: 2542--------------------------------------------------
Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Sparta Date: June 27, 2015, 2:18 pm
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"This is a debate. It is my duty to question your policies. Is
this all?" He asks.
OOC: We gotta wrap this up soon cause Gondor an I have to head
to Bamivo
#Post#: 2543--------------------------------------------------
Re: 1st Presidential Debate live from Jackson, West Phoenicia
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: June 27, 2015, 2:21 pm
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"To question? Yes. To say that I am against something that I am
not without actually asking my opinion on state's rights as a
separate issue entirely? No. But I do apologize for my temper,
as it sometimes gets the better of me. I respect you, Mr.
Kennady and look forward to our next debate. But I am done with
this first one if you are, good sir."
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