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#Post#: 1784--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Sparta Date: June 9, 2015, 1:00 pm
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Okay CSM how many you got? I have about 3,985 still fighting
with 10 injured and 5 dead
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Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Confederate Texas Date: June 9, 2015, 2:33 pm
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What the hell did I just read? Did you really just say that you
blew up my helicopters after I posted that they gotten out of
the helicopters?
How does your post come before mine? My men were not blown up in
a helicopter. They got out of all of the helicopters. The
helicopters than flew away from the scene, although I can
imagine a couple were downed, so I'll give you that. Also, how
is this Lt. Jackson fellow such a "mega badass"?
Is he a bionic or super-soldier? After my post is posted, that's
it. No "Wait, I've got a post taking place before that!"
bulls**t. I apologize for cursing but that was pretty stupid.
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Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Sparta Date: June 9, 2015, 2:41 pm
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Well according to RP rules you have to allow me to retaliate as
your helicopters arrive which you never let me do. So my post
isn't in the wrong yours is. And I haven't god modded yet.
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Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Caos Date: June 9, 2015, 10:48 pm
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Calm the calamities that is your mammaries, boys and girls, cus
good ol' Caos is here to settle the score.
I'll take a look and point out some things.
In the future, please feel free to contact either me or one of
the mods about your issues. I'd rather not have everyone enter a
rather large yelling match where the competition is 'Who
understands less', and the winner gets a scowl, a smack on the
head, and a rather Pyrrhic and constantly challenged victory.
#Post#: 1818--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Caos Date: June 9, 2015, 11:30 pm
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Oooookaaaaayyyy....
I see some... rather poorly placed arguments here already! Yay!
What fun!
First of all, I'm going to be going in order. That starts off
with you, Sparta. Yes, You.
First of all, how on earth did you know that the Missourians
were attacking those cities? I've never seen you send drones,
recon planes, or reposition satellites. More importantly, if
you're so far away that someone has to tell you that cities are
under attack, how did you reach the place that quickly? 4,000
people is quite a lot, so there would need to be hundreds of
civilian vehicles to transport such an amount. How did you get
those there? Where did they come from? Also, how are they used
to being outnumbered? You've never actually been in any combat
situation before, and certainly not with these men. You're fresh
into battle. There's bound to be mistakes in their training.
Also, how do you have the appearance of Texan rebels when you
most certainly not look like you're from Texas? You don't even
have a tan, or an accent. You'd be as visible in Texas as a
Chinese man in Georgia. Also, something to consider:
Who's leading it? What's the massive leadership? How are you
going to control a four thousand man cavalry assault on probably
impossibly attained vehicles? With no proper command or command
equipment (i.e radios, officers, command vehicles that have long
range communications, and weaponry on the vehicles, or even
designations), it'd be... rather frankly... a clusterfuck. Also,
something to consider: While it has been done before radio,
large cavalry charges (I say cavalry because this is essentially
armored cavalry) did not usually number your size, were much
closer in range, had more command opportunities, were planned
before hand, and also were very organized. To take the
appearance of unorganized rebels and attempt such a maneuver as
this, with much longer distances, more people per vehicle, more
vehicles, and more distances between people, would be utterly
impossible. Unless every man fought as his own army, this
wouldn't be possible in the first place. Essentially, you've
become a god and are now controlling men as if they were all
connected. They aren't.
Lastly on that part, I want you to realize the actual size of
the vehicles you are attempting to use. Assuming you've filled
them to the brim with soldiers, there wouldn't be any room left
for other items, such as RPGs. Keep that in mind as I continue.
Moving on, I see no problems with CT's rather short, poorly made
post. His writing style, though I utterly detest, is free of
problems related to realism. That is.. RP realism. I'm not going
to go into it because that'd be rather insulting. I really am
not here to insult people or criticize them on their writing.
Moving on.
Aaaand Sparta. This is where you should now have been arriving.
Except, you already arrived to find Eastern troops and... take
command of them. Alright, so you entrench and... why would the
Easterns not have gas masks on? Oh... wait... it's because they
didn't expect gases. Wait a second, who are you? Where are you
from? Why are you supporting us and suddenly taking command of
us? What the hell is going on? You should also take note that
grenades do not hold that much gas in them, and that wind is a
big factor, so your lines would be flushed with Chlorine gas,
killing the Easterns, as they have no gas masks.
First you entrench and then you lay down suppressive fire.
Interesting... you're close enough that you can toss grenades
yet you aren't taking casualties? What's more important is that
you tossed grenades. Essentially, poisonous smoke grenades, no?
That creates a smoke screen which is basically blown by the wind
to your lines, so now you cannot see. You're firing blind, and
yet you charge with bayonets fixed? Are you having everyone
charge? If so, why? And how does the Lieutenant only have a
pistol? That's not very effective.
Next post, poking at CSM here. CSM, while very realistic, you
must also realize the actual weight of some items. At most, with
you leading an attack, you would not be able to field automatic
grenade launchers or heavy weapons such as HMGs. They would take
up too much weight. Although, with machine guns, you basically
mowed down an ineffective, obsolete tactic of a charge.
Next post... back to Sparta. Wait... you charged with bayonets?
Why are you holding pistols? What is going on here? Wait, who's
taking command? Where's the vehicles? Wait, how are you
dictating Missouri's casualties? Wouldn't he be able to tell the
difference between the two? Why are you actually not taking as
many casualties as you should? You charged blindly into battle
and received a wall of bullets as your answer. At most, YOU
should be taking friendly fire from your MGs. Then you attempt
to form an arrow with your men... blindly.. in the heat of
battle... with gas masks? That's not... actually... possible.
And you'd be killed instantly. But wait.. you're sending Easties
into the screen of gas? You realize the Easties will die
instantly, right? They have no gear to protect against this.
Next post... CT. CT, you do realize that to move anything larger
than 100 men requires more than 10 helicopters, right?
Especially ones with anti infantry power. At most, you'd have
well over 100 helicopters. That's quite a lot to field. And to
have them all hover would mean you get immense casualties from
the infantry fire. So landing may be a better option. Also,
what's with pistols here? By bayonet charges, did you mean
putting bayonets on your rifles and throwing them like
javelins?? How did you get your men so close to the others? Did
you literally deploy.. .wait. You did. You dropped unprepared
men into Chlorine gas and they didn't die.. Also, if you lose
your leg, you're screaming in pain. If you're even alive and
conscious.
Aaand Sparta.... here we go. Sparta, Jackson is firing his
pistol after throwing his rifle into another man's chest, and is
surrounded by enemies... assuming your charge was favored by God
and didn't get mowed down because he deflected all the bullets.
How will he see a bunch of helicopters in the middle of this gas
extravaganza, and even direct rocket fire? More importantly, his
helicopters (while they SHOULD'VE made a touch and go landing),
didn't actually land. That means they could not only escape, but
they would maneuver to avoid the unguided rockets. Yes. An RPG
fires unguided rockets. At most, you'd probably have anti
infantry rockets, so high explosive frag.. and only carry two in
your bag, one in your rocket... and have not much else. So while
they're in the middle of this bayonet charge, they're not going
to stop... take their rockets out, and open fire at helicopters.
Jackson is also in the middle of a blind bayonet charge. How
does he have the ability to radio in? Also, if you're trying to
look like a rebel group, why do you have long range
communications with enough computing power to encode your
information? Where is this in the first place? Why haven't you
taken upwards of 80% casualties? Why do you automatically assume
the enemy's casualties?
All in all... this looks like it went to...
Missouri, for the least mistakes, and most realistic RPing! No,
he does not win a scowl or a smack on the head, but he does win
a pyrrhic victory? And a trophy. Here you go *hands you a
trophy*.
Sparta, unfortunately, you lose. CT actually has a point here,
and he DID give you time to respond. Multiple posts back, when
he had them start off. In fact, he gave more preparation than
you EVER did. Something to keep in mind.
You should also answer all of these questions and comments here,
people. Fixing them will be needed, as this RP has taken more of
a Michael Bay tone than a Tom Clancy tone, and I doubt we could
ever have kept the Tom Clancy tone in the first place.
#Post#: 1824--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Confederate Texas Date: June 10, 2015, 11:44 am
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Man, you're like the CinemaSins of this website... Now, I'd
actually like to thank you for making this post. Not because you
agreed with me, but because you definitely didn't hold back. You
just said the truth. I'm sorry if my writing style is disgusting
(although I am curious to know what exactly you don't like) and
I'm sorry if I can't really RP too well. It's not something I do
very often. I don't really like battle RPs. They will always
have terrible realism and Michael Bay-esque posts. I prefer
diplomatic posts. However, as this is a war topic, of course,
battles should be expected. I'm not going to pull a "I'M NOT
SPARTA!!!!" again and try to argue with you, because, to be
honest, you're right. (Although I don't really see the point of
writing a whole 5+ paragraph post to express it, how long did
that take you?) You're obviously quite an intelligent man, and
you probably have a lot of experience RPing. I do realize my
military mistakes or my battle mistakes, however, I don't look
up Wikipedia articles on individual tanks or battle tactics, nor
have I ever actually been in the military. I just go from the
top of my head. I make up names of characters on the spot, and I
clearly didn't have any kind of plan for the election. All I
said was "hurr durr no war betr economy hurr" without actually
thinking. I usually don't start topics or start anything really,
because I'm scared of being corrected or rejected. Anyway, this
post has gone on WAY too long. Point is, I'll try to do a better
job RPing. Do I still get a smack on the head?
#Post#: 1825--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Caos Date: June 10, 2015, 12:19 pm
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Wou man. That was unexpected.
Uhh.. No. I'm not gonna hit you on the head.
And no, I actually don't look up tactics, so we've got that in
common. :P
#Post#: 1826--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Confederate Texas Date: June 10, 2015, 12:27 pm
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[quote author=Caos link=topic=181.msg1825#msg1825
date=1433956778]
Wou man. That was unexpected.
Uhh.. No. I'm not gonna hit you on the head.
And no, I actually don't look up tactics, so we've got that in
common. :P
[/quote]
Well yeah, just had a lot of stuff to get off my chest and alot
of stuff to make clear :P
#Post#: 1837--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: david090366 Date: June 10, 2015, 4:35 pm
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We need freeking maps for this so it can be better visualized. I
sure as heck wouldn't shoot my own men! BTW, this is an
automatic grenade launcher. I didn't just toss a few hand
grenades at you. :P
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU1l9v2KkI0
#Post#: 1839--------------------------------------------------
Re: Monarchist Takeover of Texas OOC
By: Caos Date: June 10, 2015, 4:59 pm
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Okay, CSM actually had MECHANIZED INFANTRY, so he had IFVs with
40 mm grenade launchers and .50 HMGs
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