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China Provinces and Hubei-districts
By: gsgs Date: February 2, 2020, 11:51 am
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HTML http://www.nhc.gov.cn/yjb/
HTML http://en.nhc.gov.cn/DailyBriefing.html
HTML http://wjw.hubei.gov.cn/fbjd/dtyw/index.shtml
HTML https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030
HTML https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
HTML https://twitter.com/jodigraphics15/status/1226878638114639879
(with charts , not the Hubei cities)
HTML https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: epsilon Date: February 6, 2020, 6:38 am
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Or why else could it be worse in Wuhan ? [/quote]
Wuhan/Hubei is special as it is the only location so far where
the epidemic has already reached the "overwhelming of public
health system phase" (following about 4 weeks of unfortunately
unmitigated community transmission). People with any other than
life threatening symptoms cannot be treated (and not tested) any
more. So we see a biased sample towards the most sever cases in
Wuhan.
Other places in china have a head start of about 2 weeks (and
about 3-6 weeks in other countries). The other Chinese cities
did well in utilizing the head start for preparedness, case
testing and isolation. This something we should learn from them
now.
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: gsgs Date: February 10, 2020, 12:17 am
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did they well because they were better preparing or just because
they were
not being overwhelmed ?
With Wuhan's CFR 2.2 times higher than in the rest of Hubei
(since weeks now) I'd assume 2.2 times more cases in Wuhan,
silent, unconfirmed which would have been confirmed ones in
other cities.
Deaths in China outside Hubei are increasing now in the last
days
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oops, I accidently had edited the post above instead of
replying.
Good that I still had the original , I hope it's correctly
restored now
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: epsilon Date: February 10, 2020, 8:19 am
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[quote] did they well because they were better preparing or just
because they were
not being overwhelmed ?[/quote]
They were not overwhelmed because they were prepared.
It was wise to immediately close schools, workplaces, public
transport etc. even at a time when they had only imported cases
from Wuhan.
Its my concern that gouvernments outside of china are now in the
same position resp. "import from china" than the other chinese
Provinces were with respect to "import from Wuhan."
We must not miss this window of opportunity. But here in
Germany, for example, the only thing they do is distributing
flyers at the airports >:(
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: gsgs Date: February 10, 2020, 8:35 am
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most were visiting family for new yesr.
I don't think it was school closures, workplaces, public
transport,
That was tried earlier with not much effect.
More likely the massive screening of contacts.
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: gsgs Date: February 10, 2020, 9:26 pm
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In order to resolutely implement the decision-making and
deployment of the Party Central Committee and the State Council,
to fully support Hubei Province in the prevention and control of
new-type coronavirus pneumonia, and to resolutely win the fight
against epidemic prevention and control, the National Health and
Health Commission has made a national effort to gather
high-quality resources and establish interprovincial
counterparts to support Hubei Provincial mechanism of medical
treatment of new coronavirus pneumonia in cities other than
Wuhan.
The National Health and Health Commission fully considers the
current situation of the epidemic situation, human resource
reserves, and medical resource gaps in the aided cities. Based
on the support of the original medical team from other
provinces, the overall arrangement is based on the principle of
unchanged relations and supplementary needs. 19 Each province
supports 16 cities, counties, and counties in Hubei except
Wuhan. The following support relationships are identified:
Chongqing, Heilongjiang, Xiaogan, Shandong, Hunan, Huanggang,
Jiangxi, Suizhou, and Guangdong. 3. Hainan Province supports
Jingzhou City, Liaoning Province, Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region
supports Xiangyang City, Jiangsu Province supports Huangshi
City, Fujian Province supports Yichang City, Inner Mongolia
Autonomous Region, Zhejiang Province supports Jingmen City,
Shanxi Province supports Xiantao, Tianmen, Qianjiang 3 counties
Level cities, Guizhou Province supports Ezhou City, Yunnan
Province supports Xianning City, Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous
Region supports Shiyan City, Tianjin City supports Enshi Tujia
and Miao Autonomous Prefecture, and Hebei Province supports
Shennongjia Forest District.
The National Health and Health Commission requires all
supporting provinces to effectively improve their political
positions, and to negotiate with the aided cities to determine
support arrangements. Based on solving the local medical and
health resource gap, a support team composed of medical,
management, and disease control professionals is formed The
combination of on-site support and telemedicine services, and
multiple countermeasures to carry out counterpart support work.
At the same time, we must take into account the needs of
epidemic prevention and control in the region, work together to
improve medical treatment, and strive to improve the rate of
treatment, cure, reduce infection and mortality .
(Source: National Health and Health Commission website)
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: epsilon Date: February 13, 2020, 11:05 am
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money is always a problem , but you said "cheap"
It could be worth it in some countries.
The problem is people are infective before having symptoms and
maybe
also before symptoms can be detected.
I think it must be made illegal to infect others carelessly or
to not report
a risk-level and isolate/protect if required.
See China.
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Re: hubei vs. rest of China
By: gsgs Date: February 14, 2020, 5:42 am
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ahh, sorry. I'm so used to edit, that apparently I
accidentally edited your message instead of replying
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money is always a problem , but you said "cheap"
It could be worth it in some countries.
The problem is people are infective before having symptoms and
maybe
also before symptoms can be detected.
I think it must be made illegal to infect others carelessly or
to not report
a risk-level and isolate/protect if required.
See China.
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