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       origin
       By: gsgs Date: January 30, 2020, 9:53 pm
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       [after WIV1 in 2012]
       The sampling of this bat cave in Yunnan continued for another 5
       years. From these samples,
       the research team isolated 3 live viruses in succession, and
       obtained the full-length genomic
       sequences of a total of 15 bat SARS-like coronaviruses.
       Surprisingly, the 15 strains contained
       all the genome components of the SARS virus.
       Hu Ben, an assistant researcher at the Wuhan Institute of
       Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences:
       Shi Zhengli
       ...
       fuchsia line
       the highest similarity between SARS-like coronaviruses found in
       bat caves and their respective
       genes is above 97%,
       After 13 years of virus tracing, the origin of the SARS virus
       was finally found.
       [ one of those Yunnan cave viruses must have been RaTG13 ,  96%
       similar to 2019-nCoV ]
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       Re: origin
       By: gsgs Date: January 30, 2020, 9:54 pm
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       So far, the nCoV-2019 has been reported to share 96% sequence
       identity to the RaTG13
       genome (EPI_ISL_402131). However, the S1 Receptor Binding Domain
       (RBD) of the nCoV-2019
       genome was noticeably divergent between the two at amino acid
       residues 350 to 550 – Figure 1A.
       We aimed to identity coronaviruses related to nCoV-2019 in viral
       metagenomics datasets available
       in the public domain. In a recently published dataset describing
       viral diversity in
       Malayan pangolins (PRJNA573298 10) we used VirMAP 11 to
       reconstruct a coronavirus genome
       (approximately 84% complete from samples SRR10168377 2 and
       SRR10168378 1) that
       shared 97% amino acid identity across the same RBD segment –
       Figure 1B. This result
       indicates a potential recombination event for nCoV-2019.
       pangolin=Schuppentier ,
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       Re: origin
       By: gsgs Date: February 2, 2020, 6:42 pm
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       Coronavirus conspiracy debunked by Wuhan researcher
       By Zhang Zhihao | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-02-02 19:29
       A scientist from the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese
       Academy of Sciences has
       debunked a recent conspiracy which claimed the novel coronavirus
       was manufactured and
       escaped from the institute’s most advanced biocontainment
       facility.
       Shi Zhengli, a researcher from the institute, said on her social
       media on Sunday the virus
       was the result of "nature punishing the uncivilized habits and
       customs of humans",
       and she is willing to "bet my life that [the outbreak] has
       nothing to do with the lab."
       Shi was the leading scientist who made the discovery the novel
       coronavirus can enter
       cells through ACE2 receptors and may have originated from bats.
       Her comments came after Indian scientists recently published a
       non-peer reviewed
       paper suggesting scientists had artificially inserted genes from
       the HIV virus into the
       coronavirus, thus making it susceptible to anti-HIV treatments.
       The paper was immediately panned by experts around the world and
       retracted from
       biology journal server bioRxiv on Sunday.
       ...
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       ahh, "nature punishing the uncivilized habits and customs of
       humans"
       doesn't sound like a scientific, rational, logical arguing to me
       ...
       BTW. the lab was not level IV before 2015
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       Re: origin
       By: gsgs Date: February 4, 2020, 2:10 am
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       mutation pictures of coronaviruses,
       409 selected viruses from genbank,Dec.2019, close to SARS/nCoV
       the ~30000 nucleotides were divided into areas of 3000
       so they fit on one page
       using my old program designed for influenza (which has segments
       of <2300 nucleotides)
       each black pixel is a nucleotide different from the average at
       that position
       each line is a virus, each column is a position
       positions without mutation are left out
       rows and columns are re-sorted for maximum connected areas of
       black pixels
       the average = orange rows are mainly human SARS-viruses
       (I should remove them and run it again ...)
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       Re: origin
       By: gsgs Date: February 7, 2020, 2:49 am
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       South China Agricultural University finds pangolin as a
       potential intermediate host
       for a new coronavirus
       Review and release: Chen Chenchen, the propaganda department
       Source unit and
       reviewer: Yang Zhiqun, propaganda department Time: 2020-02-07
       Views: 5114
       The latest research conducted by South China Agricultural
       University, Lingnan Modern
       Agricultural Science and Technology Guangdong Provincial
       Laboratory,
       Professor Shen Yongyi, and Professor Xiao Lihua, together with
       Researcher Yang Ruiyu
       from the Military Medical Research Institute of the Chinese
       Academy of Military Sciences
       and Chen Wu Senior Veterinarian of the Guangzhou Zoo Research
       Department, shows
       Pangolin is a potential intermediate host for a new coronavirus.
       This latest discovery
       will have great significance for the prevention and control of
       the origin of the new coronavirus.
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       Re: origin
       By: epsilon Date: February 7, 2020, 5:20 am
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       @gsgs: What is your opinion on the following article ?
  HTML https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/02/moderately-strong-confirmation-of-a-laboratory-origin-of-2019-ncov/
       Normally I am very sceptical about lab origin rumors and
       wouldn't even bother reading if it were from a random internet
       blog.
       But the author seems to be a cerdible expert (PhD, author of
       books and peer reviewed papers)
       Excerpts:
       "Unlike other related coronaviruses, the 2019-nCoV virus has a
       unique sequence about 1,378 bp (nucleotide base pairs) long that
       is not found in related coronaviruses."
       "The gap in the line shows a lack of sequence homology beween
       the most similar bat coronavirus and 2019-nCoV."
       "The resulting massive alignment confirms a major unique
       inserted element in 2019-nCoV not found in other bat
       coronaviruses, nor in SARS in the homologous genomic position"
       related:
  HTML https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/
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       Re: origin
       By: gsgs Date: February 7, 2020, 9:52 am
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       I'll check this later. I have no experience with coronaviruses,
       but mainly influenza.
       I already noticed, how close the envelope protein is and how
       distant
       the spike protein. But is it unusual ?
       South China Agricultural University claimed today they have a
       99% matching pangolin sequence
       to be published soon
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       OK, I selected 65 Wuhan-close coronaviruses, spike=protein-area
       and made my mutation-picture:
  HTML http://magictour.free.fr/spike6j.GIF
  HTML http://magictour.free.fr/spike6j.l2
       the ones close to each other in other areas are closer in the
       spike-area too -
       that looks to me as if it were just mutating much more in that
       area -
       rather than recombination.
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       Pangolin paper from Sept.2019 :
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