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#Post#: 689--------------------------------------------------
Naruto is Naive
DIR By: sasukexx16
Date: September 3, 2013, 11:56 am
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There is essentially no evidence that refutes Madara/Obito's
claim that the world will not return to war. That the selfish
desire to maintain peace leads to war, and that it's an endless
cycle. Their cynicism in mankind and it's inability to change,
and it's history of repeated violence and inability to
understand each other is, frankly, well rooted in reality.
Naruto might be the good guy in the manga, but the real world
doesn't work that way. In reality, he's a whiny, bratty, naive
kid that gets by on cheap luck and friendship. The reality is
that many unjust and unfair things that occur in the real world,
and that war and hatred are inevitable. Regardless of the time
or place, mankind is doomed to repeat this until the end of its
time on Earth.
Of course, Naruto will win because this is manga and not the
real world. But I'd like to see a nod on the part of the
creator, that this is simply not reflective of the true nature
of mankind.
He thinks he can Fix the world and the mankind...
In all seriousness if there was a Juubito in real life, i would
have agreed with him.That would be the only way to attain true
peace in the REAL WORLD
TSUKI NO MEI
#Post#: 690--------------------------------------------------
Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Tobirama
Date: September 3, 2013, 12:20 pm
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He rides on luck huh? Tell that to the naturally gifted shinobi
whom have kekkei genkai and free power ups from "Ossans"
(Orochimaru and pre identity Tobi).
He is naive and in the real world Obito and Madaras statements
are infact correct. However in Naruto the sage managed to find a
way to create peace during his life time. It was only after his
death that war would once again break out.
Naruto (I believe) will also find a way to create world peace in
future up until the point of his death (on which he will perform
something amazing and entrust his Hokage seat to Konohamaru
(will of fire) instead of Sasuke (just a prediction).
For I believe Naruto is the reincarnation of the sage. Therefore
anything the sage accomplished ; Naruto will accomplish. Going
by my own jutsu (plot no jutsu ; yes Naruto even copied that) he
will succeed.
Success has always been defined as getting up one more time than
you get knocked down. And Naruto does exactly that. He works
hard to achieve his goal and for the greater good. Again
something a certain brat does not do...
Naive yes. But you know as well as I do that he will succeed. Do
not slag off the Messiah!
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Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Hashirama Senju
Date: September 3, 2013, 3:08 pm
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Hum, Agreed.........
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Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Tobirama
Date: September 3, 2013, 3:21 pm
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Brother!!!
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Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Kogane
Date: September 3, 2013, 4:25 pm
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--- Quote from: Tobirama link ---
>
> He rides on luck huh? Tell that to the naturally gifted
shinobi whom have kekkei genkai and free power ups from "Ossans"
(Orochimaru and pre identity Tobi).
>
> He is naive and in the real world Obito and Madaras statements
are infact correct. However in Naruto the sage managed to find a
way to create peace during his life time. It was only after his
death that war would once again break out.
>
> Naruto (I believe) will also find a way to create world peace
in future up until the point of his death (on which he will
perform something amazing and entrust his Hokage seat to
Konohamaru (will of fire) instead of Sasuke (just a prediction).
> For I believe Naruto is the reincarnation of the sage.
Therefore anything the sage accomplished ; Naruto will
accomplish. Going by my own jutsu (plot no jutsu ; yes Naruto
even copied that) he will succeed.
>
> Success has always been defined as getting up one more time
than you get knocked down. And Naruto does exactly that. He
works hard to achieve his goal and for the greater good. Again
something a certain brat does not do...
>
> Naive yes. But you know as well as I do that he will succeed.
Do not slag off the Messiah!
>
--- End Quote ---
Given that in the history of the Naruto Universe that peace
had been achieved before, albeit only for a short time, Naruto's
naivete regarding changing the 'system' per se isn't really as
unrealistic as it seems.
Already in the manga, we're seeing the 5 shinobi nations united
together under one banner wearing one forehead protector which
had been previously unheard of. Relations between those 5
villages and their Kages are better than ever before, having now
fought with and for eachother against a threat that would put
alot of their petty disagreements into perspective after all
this is said and done.
Naruto has been listening to the words of those who fell
victim to the world throughout the series (Gaara, Sasuke, Pain,
etc.) and each time, he's continued to strive to change both
those people and the world they live in. It's not like he is
living in a big fantasy land and all his dreams are just bound
to come true just because he's the title character. He's been
through it all as well.
Even the Bijuu have seen and acknowledged his undying
resolve in this resolve. Perhaps with this battle, Kishi is
trying to show the realistic and historic nature of mankind -
the curse of a cycle of war being broken by the ideas of a new
generation - one that isn't unfamiliar to conflict, but one that
still values peace and security above all else. I mean, that
seemed to be what Jiraiya's books seemed to be about..
#Post#: 777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: sasukexx16
Date: September 5, 2013, 10:51 am
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--- Quote from: Tobirama link ---
>
> Brother!!!
>
--- End Quote ---
LOLED
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Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Tobirama
Date: September 5, 2013, 11:09 am
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Sadly my brother has been inactive...
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Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Hashirama
Date: September 19, 2013, 11:25 pm
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--- Quote from: Tobirama link ---
>
> Sadly my brother has been inactive...
>
--- End Quote ---
The real Hashirama has stood up.
#Post#: 1147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Kogane
Date: September 20, 2013, 5:14 am
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--- Quote from: Hashirama link ---
>
> [quote author=Tobirama link=topic=77.msg782#msg782
date=1378397385]
> Sadly my brother has been inactive...
>
--- End Quote ---
The real Hashirama has stood up.
[/quote]
And he's put one of those fingers on each hand up..
#Post#: 1275--------------------------------------------------
Re: Naruto is Naive
DIR By: Flying Rocket
Date: October 9, 2013, 9:48 am
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Apparently so is Obito.
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