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       #Post#: 434--------------------------------------------------
       Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Tobirama
       Date: August 31, 2013, 7:03 am
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       Nagato with full mobility vs EMS Madara. Who takes this and why?
       Location: Valley of the end
       Intent: to kill
       Restrictions: Madara has no Rinnegan or Mokuton. Both are not
       Edo Tensei summons. Nagato utilizes all powers in his own body.
       Starting distance: 50 feet atop the waterfall
       I'd say Madara wins this if he keeps his distance. But only just
       because without the six paths Nagato cannot break a Genjutsu so
       easily. However if Madara resorts to close range fighting:
       Nagato wins due to the vast array of dangerous jutsu. He could
       steal Madaras soul or even control Madaras movements.
       I'm quite undecided as for me it depends on how Madara plays his
       cards.
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       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: sasukexx16
       Date: August 31, 2013, 7:09 am
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       I'd say Nagato takes this since madara has no way of going past
       the Preta Path (jutsu absorber)
       Madara still got PS .... It could go either way, really depends
       on who attacks first and at the right time
       #Post#: 438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Tobirama
       Date: August 31, 2013, 7:25 am
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       Exactly what I was thinking : however unlike you I cannot
       decipher a winner.
       #Post#: 442--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Mohamed Khalifa
       Date: August 31, 2013, 7:58 am
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       I think Madara will beat Nagato if he used his susanoo.
       #Post#: 443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Tobirama
       Date: August 31, 2013, 8:03 am
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       Nagato can:
       1. Absorb Susano'o as it is made of chakra : perfect Susano'o
       would be hard to maintain or even use as Madara is mortal
       2. He can crush Susano'o or use ST : Madaras regular Susano'o is
       useless at long range
       3. Nagato can also lift Susano'o off of Madara or pull Madara
       out of his Susano'o with Bansho Tenin
       Susano'o makes little difference in this battle
       #Post#: 444--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Mohamed Khalifa
       Date: August 31, 2013, 8:08 am
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       Well since Itachi susanoo made a differnce in the fight of
       Nagato v.Bee and Naruto i thought it would be handy against him.
       #Post#: 445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Tobirama
       Date: August 31, 2013, 8:12 am
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       Without Narutos Knowledge : Itachi would t have made a
       difference. Nagato would beat Itachi in a 1v1 regardless. And
       Itachis Susano'o is different and superior to Madaras basic
       Susano'o. You cannot compare them.
       #Post#: 446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: sasukexx16
       Date: August 31, 2013, 8:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Mohamed Khalifa link ---
       >
       > Well since Itachi susanoo made a differnce in the fight of
       Nagato v.Bee and Naruto i thought it would be handy against him.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You should not compare itachi's susanoo with madara's and at
       that time it was 3 on 1 ..
       Naruto
       bee         VS      Nagato
       itachi
       #Post#: 447--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nagato vs Pre Rinnegan Madara
   DIR By: Mohamed Khalifa
       Date: August 31, 2013, 8:26 am
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       Well i think you both are right.
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