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Stage 3
By: gorilla Date: December 28, 2018, 11:57 am
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Stage 3 kit for sale nice and cheap on ebay [emoji33]
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Re: Stage 3
By: mt01ash Date: December 31, 2018, 10:33 am
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OUCH £4200 and you don't get the Exhaust system at that
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Re: Stage 3
By: Tartofraiz Date: January 2, 2019, 5:30 am
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You can get everything from Patrick Racing for way less than
that. ECU can be programmed by Michael.
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Re: Stage 3
By: ridon29 Date: January 3, 2019, 1:43 pm
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Has anyone gone down the patrick racing road? Thinking of Hi
comp pistons, head/valve job and possibly cams. Any thoughts/
advise. Despite baltic weather here. N Ireland, went for a good
wee run today.
R
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Re: Stage 3
By: omeo-mt01 Date: January 3, 2019, 9:40 pm
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[quote author=ridon29 link=topic=101.msg615#msg615
date=1546544593]
Has anyone gone down the patrick racing road? Thinking of Hi
comp pistons, head/valve job and possibly cams. Any thoughts/
advise. Despite baltic weather here. N Ireland, went for a good
wee run today.
R
[/quote]
Yes, I have. When we write something on a forum or email its
really easy to make it sound not quite what you wanted and give
false impression.
You mention "possibly cams" If, on any engine you were upping
compression and doing head work a cam is part of that whole deal
as you are really altering the original specs.
That suggests you dont have a clear idea of what you are getting
into and I just want to (with great respect) point that out.
If you do go down this track then it is Pistons, cam, ecu
reflash, exhaust and intake improvements at least. If you add in
headwork then you go for the full job which includes bigger
valves and hi lift springs.
Happy to offer advice.
cheers Graeme
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Re: Stage 3
By: Danmt Date: January 4, 2019, 12:20 am
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Just a question re. your tuning work; Will you increase the max
revs, and by how much?
Only curiosity.
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Re: Stage 3
By: ridon29 Date: January 4, 2019, 3:39 am
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Thx for reply. I have heard that 500 extra rpm is on the cards.
Hi comp pistons should make a good difference though in
conjunction with other mods. I have done quite a few car engine
rebuilds (mostly classic mini and fiat twin cam.... yes I am
quite old ;D, and gained a lot of hp/torque by doing a lot of
small improvements rather than one big one. That's why i ask,
has anyone done this or similar and does it make a good
noticeable difference?
R
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Re: Stage 3
By: Blzeebub Date: January 4, 2019, 9:01 am
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I picked up what is supposed to be a Stage 3 Patrick fitted 2005
MT last year - although it needs a full exhaust to make the most
of it. My right wrist dyno says it pulled harder earlier and to
the redline on the ride home from Brummyworld to Kent than my
Stage 2 2011 MT. Unfortunately, i haven't had a chance to ride
since getting it back and i'm currently not getting back on the
bike until my knee gets fixed!
The seller claimed a full Patrick S3 with valves, oversize
pistons etc.
B-)
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Re: Stage 3
By: omeo-mt01 Date: January 4, 2019, 5:20 pm
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[quote author=ridon29 link=topic=101.msg619#msg619
date=1546594778]
Thx for reply. I have heard that 500 extra rpm is on the cards.
Hi comp pistons should make a good difference though in
conjunction with other mods. I have done quite a few car engine
rebuilds (mostly classic mini and fiat twin cam.... yes I am
quite old ;D, and gained a lot of hp/torque by doing a lot of
small improvements rather than one big one. That's why i ask,
has anyone done this or similar and does it make a good
noticeable difference?
R
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Hi, 500revs is what you get with either a stage 2 or 3 reflash.
The standard engine has no top end and improving exhaust and
intake along with a minor reflash (t4,s special version) is
about all you can do. Still no top end but a bit more elsewhere.
If you do anything to engine, do the whole job. Hc pistons or
overbore will do stuff-all by themselves.
If you do the patrick thing then do the hc pistons, cam kit
(which includes different lifters) and the full head job which
includes larger valves, higher lift springs and porting. You
cant use their cam with standard head. Because of the different
lifters you also need their adjustable pushrods and the pushrod
covers which are needed for the initial bleeddown. (these covers
lift up for adjustment of pushrods)
You get an engine with a really strong top end and still plenty
everywhere else. It runs very well with no bad habits.
I call the whole patrick job a stage 4 engine because the
original yam s3 kit did not include any head work.
You can include 43mm intake manifolds and injector bodies from a
stratoliner (wreckers USA)
For all the effort the result is not that great but I have no
complaints. Patrick use changeover parts for some bits and the
cams can be from stratoliner for them to modify. They offer a
couple of options for going oversize. I went to the largest
without a resleeve cause happened to pick up a set easily so
bike is now an 1775.
A personal report on how it goes? Well it happens I just did a
day at phillip island gp circuit in december. I have never been
on a racetrack and went through california superbike school. All
have to start at level one which is not a full on track day as
they have a program of things to work through.
Still no worries about hammering it down the straight (which you
all know from tv) and I wasnt coming through turn 12 very hard
but still hit the 6000 limiter in top about 100 metres before
the bridge. Thats 235kmh I think (they cover your speedo) and
its a strong pull all the way.
I would be very careful of any thing bought second hand that
says its s3 or patrick and if patrick then it needs to have all
the bits like the hydraulic lifters. Happy to help with any
advice. Here we are on dec 17 ;D
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Re: Stage 3
By: Danmt Date: January 4, 2019, 11:23 pm
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Thanks for the info and best wishes.
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