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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: Simon Date: June 14, 2019, 6:35 am
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[quote author=kitty link=topic=99.msg1572#msg1572
date=1560439989]
[quote author=Simon link=topic=99.msg1556#msg1556
date=1560422649]
[quote author=floydy link=topic=99.msg1551#msg1551
date=1560414635]
[quote author=PartyBoy link=topic=99.msg1548#msg1548
date=1560413334]
It wasn't possible unfortunately
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It's the least they could have done. Out of respect for the
members and the moderators. Without them, they never would have
had a forum. Yet they decided to pull the whole thing with a few
days notice.
[/quote]
It does seem incredibly odd but I can only assume there's an
awful lot more to it than meets the eye, otherwise why wouldn't
the old admin jump at the chance of me offering to restore the
community (in a way they saw fit, not for my personal gain) and
commit to the hassle and expense of running it. Anyway I shan't
say any more on the topic as it seems to be a sore subject, I
just find it incredibly frustrating and disappointing that they
won't accept help when I'm offering everything needed on a
plate. Hopefully it's just a time thing and they'll get back to
me soon but obviously the longer things take, the more people
will just think the website is gone forever and won't return
even if the forum was saved.
There must be more to it.
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From what I can gather it's not as simple as being able to hand
things over. For one there is the use of the name, we have no
rights to that. Secondly the issue of GDPR which would have
created a problem in handing over but also as soon as the forum
was removed part of GDPR is also to dispose of personal details
so even the day after I say it would have been too late for your
offer.
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Name - Not an issue. I could set up another domain name and
relaunch the forum. For example I've owned talkmuscle.co.uk for
years (to protect TMuscle as same initials in case anyone is
wondering)! Obviously wouldn't pick one that close without
permission from Jason out of respect but the point stands, it's
dead easy to relaunch under a new name and I've done it before
changing both the name of TMuscle and the forum software.
GDPR - Yes there are additional considerations but short of
Jason having deleted every single recent backup in its entirety
(which won't be required by law) then this doesn't pose a big
issue. Otherwise GDPR would prevent businesses being sold etc
and that's not the idea of the legislation. It wouldn't be
needed but taking it totally to extremes all the accounts could
be deleted, I could restore the content and then allow
former-members to re-register rather than be transferred. My
point is this isn't a dealbreaker.
Yes, there maybe a few hurdles to overcome but as long as
there's a backup of the site (and I find it incredibly unlikely
that 20 years of data has just been deleted with 5 days public
notice!) then everything can be overcome. Technical aspect
would be a bit involved but perfectly doable, costs involved
I've already said I'd cover, I've offered to set up the
relaunched site in a way the previous admin is perfectly happy
with. Also I appreciate the whole thing about keeping things
totally private and off this forum but I'm posting this to be
accountable and transparent with my intentions and to also try
and put a rocket up Jason's arse to let me help the community if
I'm being honest as I've not received a single message from him
and the longer it goes without being saved (if at all) the more
members will never rejoin. James has been kind enough to speak
to me about this so thank you if you're reading.
It's easy to point to individual things and say it can't be done
because of 'this' and 'that' but frankly they're small details
and it's perfectly doable to get it back online. Obviously it
was stressing Jason out but I'd have thought knowing the forum
was saved rather than shut and disappointing a lot of people
would help that and not make things worse. As I say, hopefully
he'll be in contact; he obviously holds the keys and I can only
help if he'll let me.
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: H0M3R Date: June 14, 2019, 6:52 am
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The thing is, as much as I want the original forum to be saved,
for whatever Jason's reason may be it is still ultimately his
decision and that has to be respected.
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: Simon Date: June 14, 2019, 7:00 am
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[quote author=H0M3R link=topic=99.msg1611#msg1611
date=1560513143]
The thing is, as much as I want the original forum to be saved,
for whatever Jason's reason may be it is still ultimately his
decision and that has to be respected.
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Of course, but wouldn’t feel right if I didn’t at least try and
it frustrates me when technical reasons are being cited as the
problem. If Jason doesn’t want the site online I respect that;
don’t necessarily agree with it but I respect it, but let’s not
dress it up as out of his control. Maybe that comes across as
harsh but just saying how I see it.
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: H0M3R Date: June 14, 2019, 7:35 am
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But continuously debating on here about how it still can be and
should be saved doesn't help. We all appreciate that you want to
help, and that its not for your own gain, but the fact that he
hasn't answered to your emails clearly means that he isn't
interested. So you might as well leave it there.
He joined here to keep in touch with the members, but soon said
that he would be going quiet for a while as he didn't want to
get dragged into a big debate about why he didn't save the
forum.
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: Simon Date: June 14, 2019, 7:40 am
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[quote author=H0M3R link=topic=99.msg1614#msg1614
date=1560515751]
But continuously debating on here about how it still can be and
should be saved doesn't help. We all appreciate that you want to
help, and that its not for your own gain, but the fact that he
hasn't answered to your emails clearly means that he isn't
interested. So you might as well leave it there.
He joined here to keep in touch with the members, but soon said
that he would be going quiet for a while as he didn't want to
get dragged into a big debate about why he didn't save the
forum.
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Fair point. This was my last attempt at pushing it where it’s a
bit time sensitive. I’ll leave it now.
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: Nails Date: June 15, 2019, 8:39 am
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It's all about the journals for me, both logging my own training
and reading others.
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: doc Date: June 15, 2019, 9:16 am
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[quote author=H0M3R link=topic=99.msg1614#msg1614
date=1560515751]
But continuously debating on here about how it still can be and
should be saved doesn't help. We all appreciate that you want to
help, and that its not for your own gain, but the fact that he
hasn't answered to your emails clearly means that he isn't
interested. So you might as well leave it there.
He joined here to keep in touch with the members, but soon said
that he would be going quiet for a while as he didn't want to
get dragged into a big debate about why he didn't save the
forum.
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It wasnt just an offer to save the forum , it was also an offer
to create a read only searchable archive , im sure there are
genuine reasons but i think simon offer is well intended ,
wasn't debated in a pestering manner just different offers that
fell in line with jasons reason for ditching it originally using
process of elimination. I can sympathise, its 20 years worth of
searchable data with answers and info around every subject.
I use email at work , I have emails going back to 2003 , cant
possibly delete them because I know one day I will need to refer
to them .
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: 1MR Date: June 17, 2019, 9:32 pm
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MT Facebook page pointed me here
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: dirtyvest Date: June 18, 2019, 10:29 am
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Good to see another familiar (even if abbreviated) name
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Re: What was your reason for joining this forum ?
By: Mr. Poopybutthole Date: June 18, 2019, 12:35 pm
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Nostalgia
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