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       #Post#: 488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: doc
       Date: June 2, 2019, 11:31 am
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       Since AJ fought White ive expected this to happen , gets tagged
       and goes all jelly legged and doesn't recover very well at all .
       this is the reason I would have backed wilder and fury over him
       , obviously he could knock both of them out but I would back the
       other 2 over him . Reminds me of a modern day Frank Bruno but
       hes been well looked after in terms of opponents , hes fought
       some decent ones and an over the hill Kiltch , he will recover
       and probably be world champ again but hes probably going to get
       there by dodging the top guys.
       #Post#: 492--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Teapot
       Date: June 2, 2019, 11:59 am
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       --- Quote from: doc link ---
       >
       > Since AJ fought White ive expected this to happen , gets
       tagged and goes all jelly legged and doesn't recover very well
       at all . this is the reason I would have backed wilder and fury
       over him , obviously he could knock both of them out but I would
       back the other 2 over him . Reminds me of a modern day Frank
       Bruno but hes been well looked after in terms of opponents , hes
       fought some decent ones and an over the hill Kiltch , he will
       recover and probably be world champ again but hes probably going
       to get there by dodging the top guys.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's a dodger, dodged wilder and plenty of others. Fury said he
       refused to fight wilder on a Joe Rogan podcast, was genuine.
       Easy route to the top just like mcgreggor.
       Cardio really suspect, too much muscle, weak chin.
       I watched the fight and thought how Mike Tyson, or Holyfield
       would make mince meat of him. All imo
       #Post#: 493--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Newcy
       Date: June 2, 2019, 12:12 pm
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       I don't think I could disagree with you anymore tbh  :)
       #Post#: 503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Muscle
       Date: June 2, 2019, 4:57 pm
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       You never know what work capability fat guys like him have. You
       what think Ruiz would gas out but some guys with extra timber
       don't.
       As already said you would think Ruiz must have had a flash KO
       and won like that, but he simply bombed AJ over time.
       I thinking about Ruiz last night and then read the odds checker
       tips and had rethink and just no.
       I don't have much confidence in AJ for the rematch, what do
       others think here?
       #Post#: 523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: doc
       Date: June 3, 2019, 3:31 am
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       --- Quote from: Muscle link ---
       >
       > You never know what work capability fat guys like him have.
       You what think Ruiz would gas out but some guys with extra
       timber don't.
       >
       > As already said you would think Ruiz must have had a flash KO
       and won like that, but he simply bombed AJ over time.
       >
       > I thinking about Ruiz last night and then read the odds
       checker tips and had rethink and just no.
       >
       > I don't have much confidence in AJ for the rematch, what do
       others think here?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He needs to up his cardio and get sparring partners that hit him
       hard and to the body, he didn't have a massive work rate at all
       but he was f4cked after 4 rounds, very bad day at the office but
       when you weigh up what you saw there no way he can deal with a
       busy terrier unless he stops believing his hype and starts
       becoming a champion.
       After watching last night Wilder would have likely knocked him
       out a lot quicker and just been relentless without gassing and
       Fury would have gave him the biggest boxing lesson in history
       and possible KO'd him as well as he just doesnt seem to have leg
       or chin that are even 2/10, I think even some of Furys point
       scoring punches would have him in trouble.
       #Post#: 551--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Teapot
       Date: June 3, 2019, 8:28 am
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       His cardio is not the best, round 6 perfect example, first
       minute he came out and tried to better Ruiz, then faded very
       badly as was gassed. Struggles with a good body shot y the looks
       of it and Ruiz went for rye body well I thought.
       #Post#: 552--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Bookerman
       Date: June 3, 2019, 8:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Teapot link ---
       >
       > His cardio is not the best, round 6 perfect example, first
       minute he came out and tried to better Ruiz, then faded very
       badly as was gassed. Struggles with a good body shot y the looks
       of it and Ruiz went for rye body well I thought.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I thought the couple body shots was the thing that done him in
       the 5th I think it was. Ruiz caught him coming out of a clinch
       and AJ was on his bike trying to hide how hurt he was
       #Post#: 553--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Teapot
       Date: June 3, 2019, 8:44 am
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       --- Quote from: Bookerman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Teapot link=topic=29.msg551#msg551
       date=1559568493]
       > His cardio is not the best, round 6 perfect example, first
       minute he came out and tried to better Ruiz, then faded very
       badly as was gassed. Struggles with a good body shot y the looks
       of it and Ruiz went for rye body well I thought.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I thought the couple body shots was the thing that done him in
       the 5th I think it was. Ruiz caught him coming out of a clinch
       and AJ was on his bike trying to hide how hurt he was
       [/quote]
       His ribs are a big target, future opponents will take note.
       #Post#: 591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Muscle
       Date: June 3, 2019, 11:43 am
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       --- Quote from: doc link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Muscle link=topic=29.msg503#msg503
       date=1559512645]
       > You never know what work capability fat guys like him have.
       You what think Ruiz would gas out but some guys with extra
       timber don't.
       >
       > As already said you would think Ruiz must have had a flash KO
       and won like that, but he simply bombed AJ over time.
       >
       > I thinking about Ruiz last night and then read the odds
       checker tips and had rethink and just no.
       >
       > I don't have much confidence in AJ for the rematch, what do
       others think here?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He needs to up his cardio and get sparring partners that hit him
       hard and to the body, he didn't have a massive work rate at all
       but he was f4cked after 4 rounds, very bad day at the office but
       when you weigh up what you saw there no way he can deal with a
       busy terrier unless he stops believing his hype and starts
       becoming a champion.
       After watching last night Wilder would have likely knocked him
       out a lot quicker and just been relentless without gassing and
       Fury would have gave him the biggest boxing lesson in history
       and possible KO'd him as well as he just doesnt seem to have leg
       or chin that are even 2/10, I think even some of Furys point
       scoring punches would have him in trouble.
       [/quote]
       Was it Ruiz with good cardio ability or AJ no cardio ability? To
       me Ruiz didn't look fazed at all. You would never think AJ would
       gas out before Ruiz from looking at the two. I've seen this in
       six a side football. Players with plenty of timber run around
       and never stop. Where another fat guy couldn't do anything. You
       would never know until they start.
       #Post#: 592--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boxing.  Joshua vs Ruiz this weekend. SPOILERS!!
   DIR By: Muscle
       Date: June 3, 2019, 11:45 am
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       Pains me I missed 250/1 for the round betting. All his round
       were 250 apart from the last 4 at hills.
       Who would win the rematch?
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