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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: doc Date: March 21, 2020, 2:16 pm
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=212.msg9471#msg9471
       date=1584816649]
       Do you trust the "official numbers" doc?
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       No and not just because of countries and governments lying , but
       the main reason is that  most countries  have let it spread and
       not done any testing .  estimated 3.4% mortality by WHO , but if
       you look at Italy's numbers is more like 10% so probably far
       more people have it than reported , I think a few Asian
       countries are carrying out extensive testing and they have kept
       it more under control .
       The are official numbers yes, but they are accepted as a best
       guess.
       cases      deaths
       Germany
       Italy
       the deaths will be accurate for most, but the cases cant be ,
       what do you think ?
       #Post#: 9473--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: dirtyvest Date: March 21, 2020, 2:19 pm
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       Country demographics have played something of a role in Italy's
       high numbers I gather. The mean patient age in Italy is 67
       whereas China was significantly lower (mid 40s IIRC). And I
       believe the worst hit region in Italy is significantly older,
       pollution is unusually high for the country there and the older
       generation have a higher smoking rate too. Not saying it
       explains it all but in part....
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: Newcy Date: March 21, 2020, 2:51 pm
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       I don't believe most things anymore mate. I don't believe a word
       mainstream media say. Things can and will be manipulated to
       whatever agenda wants serving.
       My girlfriend works at a doctors surgery with over 7000
       registered patients, they have one case of it. One, and there
       symptoms aren't severe.
       There's an old Roman or Greek phrase that goes along the lines
       of, he who profits most from a crime probably committed the
       crime.
       Who benefits most from a totally collapsed economy and
       widespread terror?
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: doc Date: March 23, 2020, 5:03 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=212.msg9474#msg9474
       date=1584820291]
       I don't believe most things anymore mate. I don't believe a word
       mainstream media say. Things can and will be manipulated to
       whatever agenda wants serving.
       My girlfriend works at a doctors surgery with over 7000
       registered patients, they have one case of it. One, and there
       symptoms aren't severe.
       There's an old Roman or Greek phrase that goes along the lines
       of, he who profits most from a crime probably committed the
       crime.
       Who benefits most from a totally collapsed economy and
       widespread terror?
       [/quote]
       wel it certainly fits in with pnac/ agenda 21/2030
       But this is a real virus , its is deadly and needs to be taken
       seriously , the measures taken will almost certainly collapse
       the economy and form some sort of communist regime. I cant see
       things getting back to normal fully ever.
       Whether its man made I don't know , solves a lot of problems in
       indebted countries with killing off old people , especially
       China with there 1 child policy , with not enough young to keep
       the old going , wouldn't surprise me if this was self inflicted
       and just to send a message to not cripple there country with
       unfair trade tariffs.
       unfundable liabilities will now be less of a problem
       Then there's the amount of debt and likely hyperinflation we are
       all going to experience , new single one world currency ? SDR's
       ? will be the answer ? Every human to be chipped and tracked
       with a full DNA database to make us safer ? problem , reaction ,
       solution . A lot of changes are coming that's for sure.
       Even if its Governments that have incompetent or intentionally
       let it spread to justify such measures , with Borris flip flop I
       suspect its the later . Going for herd immunity without testing
       and life as normal  to a full lockdown appearing to do it out of
       necessity when all of the data from Italy was already there .
       95% of UK cases wouldnt have appeared if they had locked down at
       the same time as Italy or China locked down.
       Open borders  and political correctness have a lot to answer
       for.  If you get stopped in France with army and police on the
       streets you have to show your papers/passport  not sure why this
       would be relevant for a virus , all sounds a bit SS
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       #Post#: 9501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: Newcy Date: March 23, 2020, 7:24 am
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       Watson is great.
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: Muscle Date: March 23, 2020, 2:53 pm
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       Its far worst than I through it would pan out. Very interesting
       points there Doc with what the repercussions could be.
       This was predicted by someone years ago on a jesse ventura doc,
       it was mainstream so taken with a pinch of salt so maybe they
       even wanted us think its man made. You could always debate its
       natural or man made though eventually it could happen naturally.
       I can't see things getting back to any kind of normal until next
       year what does everyone else think? Does anyone think it will be
       years and years. Its unbelievable how slow the UK was to react.
       
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: Muscle Date: March 23, 2020, 7:08 pm
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: Muscle Date: March 23, 2020, 7:13 pm
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       Icke saying we should focus entirely on old and people with
       existing conditions and cocoon them away. Then the world
       basically carry's on. This can't happen due to the plans of
       economy change planned. More Control, no small business's etc.
       Bart thinking on the same lines.
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: doc Date: March 24, 2020, 4:52 am
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       Saw the Icke vid he has some good points but deliberately avoids
       simple questions of what should be done differently . If we had
       of locked down one day one , everyone would have said it was way
       overplayed , way less harmful than seasonal flu and we would
       have had likely riots everywhere , although we did lockdown way
       way too late . I genuinely believe our government let this
       spread. They could have showed the Chinese or Italian data and
       started the quarantine.  But understand no PM wants to come
       across as authoritarian in a free society.
       Muslim/religious gatherings are still going to be a problem in
       some areas I guarantee. The rules Boris set out are open to
       interpretation and these will be bent. You can still go and care
       for a vulnerable person so no doubt everyone with a girlfriend
       or partner they don't live with will soon become a vulnerable
       person , some will be caught out and these will be used to
       justify tighter police controls. I think this is where Icke is
       right , not all of these new laws will be undone at the end. A
       stronger mutation is our biggest worry now.
       I believe younger people are dying in the US because most people
       are obese/pre diabetic/high blood pressure.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8ilxBYZHvQ
       decent vid on why it's man made , I don't know enough to
       understand either way.
       I was buying a house , but now im certainly not going to and
       will probably transfer my savings/deposit into gold/silver. The
       pound is going to get decimated and please don't compare it to
       the dollar or the Euro as they are also in freefall.
       Boris is evaluating the quarantine in the next 3 weeks , but the
       numbers are certainly going to be higher at that time even if
       the quarantine works perfectly . 8 weeks and we might have a
       better idea . This isn't going to pass very quick . We are
       increasing the money printing at the same time we are decreasing
       the amount of goods and services in the economy currencies all
       over the world are going to get killed. Supermarkets/food will
       be as good as state controlled by then.  Food riots coming ?
       Hopefully the EU nations see the incompetence of there unelected
       leaders after this and abandon the project , free trade is not
       worth the price of open borders.
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       Re: The Black Death! - he’s a coming...
       By: Newcy Date: March 24, 2020, 7:07 am
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       That was the problem with the address last night, people are
       stupid and greedy and need telling in no uncertain terms. I'm
       stuck at a building site that refuses to shut teaming with
       Romanians that are sharing food and practically crawling over
       each other. I've just had to leave the canteen as they've just
       swarmed in.
       Things are now going to be changed permanently. I have no idea
       if there will be any recovery from this.
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