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       Trouble sleeping
       By: floydy Date: January 18, 2020, 7:50 pm
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       looking for something decent to order online.... to switch my
       brain off  :)
       Never used anything before. but need it at the moment.
       melatonin?
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: Newcy Date: January 21, 2020, 4:25 am
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       Melatonin is a load of ball bags.
       I've just tried rich piana ktfo. Did absolutely nothing. I'm
       going to try something called unplugged next, although I'm not
       hopeful.
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: doc Date: January 21, 2020, 8:35 am
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       diphenhydramine is very good ( allergy medicine)
       Promethazine even better but you are groggy the day after.
       atarax strong
       vallium is excellent (POm)
       zopiclone probably the best but very habit forming (POM)
       the over the counter stuff is actually stronger than the
       prescription only meds for me.
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: ANIMAL Date: January 21, 2020, 3:29 pm
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       Floydy, you telling me you’ve never had 8 pints and fish supper
       at the Weatherspoon?  That certainly does it for me. I’m out
       like a light
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: doc Date: January 21, 2020, 5:44 pm
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       to add to my list , kratom in high doses can work well
       Phenibut is great for sleep , even better when combined with
       gabba
       8 pints will do the trick , but id be pissing all night and
       dehydrated.
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: Newcy Date: January 22, 2020, 4:20 am
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=209.msg7819#msg7819
       date=1579617304]
       diphenhydramine is very good ( allergy medicine)
       Promethazine even better but you are groggy the day after.
       atarax strong
       vallium is excellent (POm)
       zopiclone probably the best but very habit forming (POM)
       the over the counter stuff is actually stronger than the
       prescription only meds for me.
       [/quote]
       You can buy all the stuff you listed over the counter?
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: doc Date: January 22, 2020, 4:38 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=209.msg7852#msg7852
       date=1579688425]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=209.msg7819#msg7819
       date=1579617304]
       diphenhydramine is very good ( allergy medicine)
       Promethazine even better but you are groggy the day after.
       atarax strong
       vallium is excellent (POm)
       zopiclone probably the best but very habit forming (POM)
       the over the counter stuff is actually stronger than the
       prescription only meds for me.
       [/quote]
       You can buy all the stuff you listed over the counter?
       [/quote]
       apart from the ones listed POM yes, although if you go to the
       right counters then you can get those as well
       #Post#: 7872--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: Newcy Date: January 22, 2020, 8:33 am
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       Isn't the top one basically nytol?
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: doc Date: January 22, 2020, 9:02 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=209.msg7872#msg7872
       date=1579703600]
       Isn't the top one basically nytol?
       [/quote]
       Its in some nytol yes, but not all nytols, its the real one .
       don't underestimate diphenhydramine its seriously strong stuff,
       take too much and you'll be tripping for days
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       Re: Trouble sleeping
       By: BigWig Date: January 22, 2020, 1:33 pm
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       Valium and nytol will def work a treat!
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