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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 9, 2019, 9:23 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6751#msg6751
       date=1575888425]
       When was the last time Fury sparked somebody out? Every fight
       since his comeback bar Wilder has been a disgrace.
       [/quote]
       Not sure about that ! hes fought undefeated fighters, so they
       aint tomato cans !  Tomato cans would be fighters with multiple
       defeats on there record. thats a bit like calling Ruiz a tomato
       can , who fought on 3 weeks notice.
       Mayweather was never known for sparking people out but hes the
       greatest p4p boxer ever imo.
       No doubt AJ will get better and loosing is part of the learning
       curve , but hes not ready for Fury yet .
       #Post#: 6758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 9, 2019, 10:06 am
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       A tomato can is a bum, everyone bar Wilder is a bum, they've
       clearly been handpicked to make himself look better, it's a
       pretty common place selling point. Otto Wallin was an unranked
       fighter for god sake.
       The AJ that fought Klitschko or Whyte would demolish Fury.
       #Post#: 6759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 9, 2019, 1:01 pm
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       Thats the fight I want to see Aj vs Fury
       #Post#: 6760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 9, 2019, 1:21 pm
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6758#msg6758
       date=1575907607]
       A tomato can is a bum, everyone bar Wilder is a bum, they've
       clearly been handpicked to make himself look better, it's a
       pretty common place selling point. Otto Wallin was an unranked
       fighter for god sake.
       The AJ that fought Klitschko or Whyte would demolish Fury.
       [/quote]
       AJ was an undefeated unranked fighter at one time, was he a
       tomato can ?
       The AJ that fought Klitchko was very good even though he landed
       on the floor , Klitschko was a 12 month older version than the
       one Fury beat convincingly . Dont forget Fury took a lot of
       fights close together, so no harm in taking wallin.
       The AJ that fought Whyte very nearly ended on the floor , that
       was a poor performance .
       #Post#: 6761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 9, 2019, 1:50 pm
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       Wallin turned pro in 2013 at 22, he's had 22 fights, he has
       fought nobody until Fury. AJ had a world title fight after 16
       fights and a unification at fight 18. You can't compare the 2.
       The Klitschko that fought fury was a shadow of himself, he
       hardly threw a punch for 12 rounds. He didn't have a clue what
       to do with fury from the press meets and it poured over into the
       fight. The Furys and Ruiz and his team are absolute mind game
       masters. Had Fury taken the rematch he would have been
       demolished, and he knows that.
       Dillian Whyte is a monster mate, there's no shame in losing to
       him, which he didn't and knocked through the ropes.
       #Post#: 6762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 9, 2019, 1:53 pm
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       I actually think Whyte would beat Wilder and Fury, there's a
       reason why they both duck him.
       #Post#: 6767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 10, 2019, 4:28 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6762#msg6762
       date=1575921188]
       I actually think Whyte would beat Wilder and Fury, there's a
       reason why they both duck him.
       [/quote]
       Its heavyweight boxing and hes certainly a good fighter but I
       dont think he would beat AJ, Fury or Wilder . But he should
       certainly get a shot, not sure why he would fight Fury though as
       hes not got any belts and its a nothing fight for either of them
       , but woud like to see him fight the winner of Fury/Wilder 2 if
       they dont try and unify the titles first or at least throw him
       in with Ruiz.
       #Post#: 6787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 10, 2019, 2:47 pm
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       They're both top 5 heavyweights and Fury is a big name, it would
       be a big fight. They'd both make a huge amount of money.
       #Post#: 6791--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 10, 2019, 3:24 pm
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6787#msg6787
       date=1576010843]
       They're both top 5 heavyweights and Fury is a big name, it would
       be a big fight. They'd both make a huge amount of money.
       [/quote]
       fury wants a belt , Whyte can't offer that and hasn't been
       available since Fury fought Wilder , from a promoters pov its
       not a fight that makes sense , whyte needs to be in a title
       fight he wont get that from Fury and risks loosing in a fight
       that gains him nothing in terms of titles.
       #Post#: 7384--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: January 4, 2020, 10:31 am
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       Looks like AJ might be getting the shaft from one of the feds ,
       both mandating different opponents at the same time , what an
       absolute crock they are !   let them face off against each other
       and have an elimination fight or just have one heavyweight
       title.
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