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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 3, 2019, 2:28 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6579#msg6579
       date=1575320583]
       Fury and Wilder both duck Whyte, they need to start with him for
       a start, they've both had very good legitimate offers.
       Apart from each other they've collectively got 2 credible other
       opponents. That's absolutely ridiculous.
       [/quote]
       If i was Fury or Wilder I would duck whyte , from there pov hes
       just not up to the standard and they want titles , from his pov
       hes done everything he can , but hes only a challenger in WBC (
       Wilder) so when hes mandatory and the Fury fight is settled they
       will have to square off.  Agree though that both have had two
       fights and Whyte probably should have been one of them for
       either.
       Good find that Muscle ,  3-1 down with 15 mins to go and you
       backed them ?
       #Post#: 6615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 3, 2019, 11:40 am
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       Doc
       3-0 and 15 mins to go. I backed the draw at 125/1 £5 on at
       befair
       Once they got 1 back I then had to back the win at 66/1 £5 on at
       bet365
       They offer a cash out on the draw but I left it as I had win
       covered. So it was ok to leave it. I should have cash it though,
       would have won twice then.
       Gods knows what the win was at 3-0. I would guess 350/1. A
       tenner should have gone on that. Thats the most likely way
       someone could win 3 and a half grand from a tenner. Even though
       I see this and many many late goals all over world its still
       hard to back bets like that with anything over a fiver for me.
       For example throwing a £5 on a bet with 90 seconds left is still
       hard even though I know this pans out well over several bets.
       #Post#: 6631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 4, 2019, 10:14 am
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       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6615#msg6615
       date=1575394850]
       Doc
       3-0 and 15 mins to go. I backed the draw at 125/1 £5 on at
       befair
       Once they got 1 back I then had to back the win at 66/1 £5 on at
       bet365
       They offer a cash out on the draw but I left it as I had win
       covered. So it was ok to leave it. I should have cash it though,
       would have won twice then.
       Gods knows what the win was at 3-0. I would guess 350/1. A
       tenner should have gone on that. Thats the most likely way
       someone could win 3 and a half grand from a tenner. Even though
       I see this and many many late goals all over world its still
       hard to back bets like that with anything over a fiver for me.
       For example throwing a £5 on a bet with 90 seconds left is still
       hard even though I know this pans out well over several bets.
       [/quote]
       I dont have the heart or wallet for gambling , bit of poker from
       time to time but i just  dont get the buzz for sports betting.
       Like the AJ Ruiz fight , I just dont see how anyone could back
       Ruiz as the favourite in a fight that could go either way , 7/4
       for the win , risk a tenner and you dont get enough in return.
       #Post#: 6639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 4, 2019, 1:04 pm
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=198.msg6631#msg6631
       date=1575476051]
       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6615#msg6615
       date=1575394850]
       Doc
       3-0 and 15 mins to go. I backed the draw at 125/1 £5 on at
       befair
       Once they got 1 back I then had to back the win at 66/1 £5 on at
       bet365
       They offer a cash out on the draw but I left it as I had win
       covered. So it was ok to leave it. I should have cash it though,
       would have won twice then.
       Gods knows what the win was at 3-0. I would guess 350/1. A
       tenner should have gone on that. Thats the most likely way
       someone could win 3 and a half grand from a tenner. Even though
       I see this and many many late goals all over world its still
       hard to back bets like that with anything over a fiver for me.
       For example throwing a £5 on a bet with 90 seconds left is still
       hard even though I know this pans out well over several bets.
       [/quote]
       I dont have the heart or wallet for gambling , bit of poker from
       time to time but i just  dont get the buzz for sports betting.
       Like the AJ Ruiz fight , I just dont see how anyone could back
       Ruiz as the favourite in a fight that could go either way , 7/4
       for the win , risk a tenner and you dont get enough in return.
       [/quote]
       Thats the way the odds are pre match / fight. I don't see the
       point, never any value most of the time.
       Its about beating the time with my in play betting.
       I've placed bets with 10 seconds to go. A dangerous free kick.
       Basically that free kick must go in.
       Its probably a boring way to bet. But if your selective over
       several bets it pans out good.
       I keep thinking if pans out good with a fiver, why not bet with
       50 quid? I just don't have the balls to do and it would worry me
       to see 5 or 6 bets lose with 50 quid. The truth is though if you
       keep on going, one will score late and you get it all back and a
       handsome profit. Happens over and over again.
       Thats another 125/1 shot which could have been cashed out and a
       66/1 which landed.
       The odds are to big for a late goal. Can be massive for a
       comeback.
       #Post#: 6667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: The_Lone_Wolf Date: December 5, 2019, 2:56 am
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       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6639#msg6639
       date=1575486279]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=198.msg6631#msg6631
       date=1575476051]
       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6615#msg6615
       date=1575394850]
       Doc
       3-0 and 15 mins to go. I backed the draw at 125/1 £5 on at
       befair
       Once they got 1 back I then had to back the win at 66/1 £5 on at
       bet365
       They offer a cash out on the draw but I left it as I had win
       covered. So it was ok to leave it. I should have cash it though,
       would have won twice then.
       Gods knows what the win was at 3-0. I would guess 350/1. A
       tenner should have gone on that. Thats the most likely way
       someone could win 3 and a half grand from a tenner. Even though
       I see this and many many late goals all over world its still
       hard to back bets like that with anything over a fiver for me.
       For example throwing a £5 on a bet with 90 seconds left is still
       hard even though I know this pans out well over several bets.
       [/quote]
       I dont have the heart or wallet for gambling , bit of poker from
       time to time but i just  dont get the buzz for sports betting.
       Like the AJ Ruiz fight , I just dont see how anyone could back
       Ruiz as the favourite in a fight that could go either way , 7/4
       for the win , risk a tenner and you dont get enough in return.
       [/quote]
       Thats the way the odds are pre match / fight. I don't see the
       point, never any value most of the time.
       Its about beating the time with my in play betting.
       I've placed bets with 10 seconds to go. A dangerous free kick.
       Basically that free kick must go in.
       Its probably a boring way to bet. But if your selective over
       several bets it pans out good.
       I keep thinking if pans out good with a fiver, why not bet with
       50 quid? I just don't have the balls to do and it would worry me
       to see 5 or 6 bets lose with 50 quid. The truth is though if you
       keep on going, one will score late and you get it all back and a
       handsome profit. Happens over and over again.
       Thats another 125/1 shot which could have been cashed out and a
       66/1 which landed.
       The odds are to big for a late goal. Can be massive for a
       comeback.
       [/quote]
       In play betting was my tactic years ago.
       Used to sit with Betfair open on my laptop, and tons of games on
       live... Trying to squeeze value out of in play odds. Was fun and
       stressful at the same time.
       The Ruiz V AJ has no value on it at all, whee as I'm sure the
       first fight had a ton if anyone back the Mexican Russel.
       #Post#: 6678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 5, 2019, 10:55 am
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       [quote author=The_Lone_Wolf link=topic=198.msg6667#msg6667
       date=1575536190]
       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6639#msg6639
       date=1575486279]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=198.msg6631#msg6631
       date=1575476051]
       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6615#msg6615
       date=1575394850]
       Doc
       3-0 and 15 mins to go. I backed the draw at 125/1 £5 on at
       befair
       Once they got 1 back I then had to back the win at 66/1 £5 on at
       bet365
       They offer a cash out on the draw but I left it as I had win
       covered. So it was ok to leave it. I should have cash it though,
       would have won twice then.
       Gods knows what the win was at 3-0. I would guess 350/1. A
       tenner should have gone on that. Thats the most likely way
       someone could win 3 and a half grand from a tenner. Even though
       I see this and many many late goals all over world its still
       hard to back bets like that with anything over a fiver for me.
       For example throwing a £5 on a bet with 90 seconds left is still
       hard even though I know this pans out well over several bets.
       [/quote]
       I dont have the heart or wallet for gambling , bit of poker from
       time to time but i just  dont get the buzz for sports betting.
       Like the AJ Ruiz fight , I just dont see how anyone could back
       Ruiz as the favourite in a fight that could go either way , 7/4
       for the win , risk a tenner and you dont get enough in return.
       [/quote]
       Thats the way the odds are pre match / fight. I don't see the
       point, never any value most of the time.
       Its about beating the time with my in play betting.
       I've placed bets with 10 seconds to go. A dangerous free kick.
       Basically that free kick must go in.
       Its probably a boring way to bet. But if your selective over
       several bets it pans out good.
       I keep thinking if pans out good with a fiver, why not bet with
       50 quid? I just don't have the balls to do and it would worry me
       to see 5 or 6 bets lose with 50 quid. The truth is though if you
       keep on going, one will score late and you get it all back and a
       handsome profit. Happens over and over again.
       Thats another 125/1 shot which could have been cashed out and a
       66/1 which landed.
       The odds are to big for a late goal. Can be massive for a
       comeback.
       [/quote]
       In play betting was my tactic years ago.
       Used to sit with Betfair open on my laptop, and tons of games on
       live... Trying to squeeze value out of in play odds. Was fun and
       stressful at the same time.
       The Ruiz V AJ has no value on it at all, whee as I'm sure the
       first fight had a ton if anyone back the Mexican Russel.
       [/quote]
       Definitely a smart way to bet. First fight, Ruiz was around 30/1
       for the straight win. At hills he was 500/1 on just about all
       rounds.
       #Post#: 6710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 6, 2019, 1:24 pm
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       So AJ is 16st 13lb at 6'5 and Ruiz 20st 3lb at 6'0.
       AJ lighter and Ruiz heavier.
       Really hard to put a finger on what will happen. I lean towards
       Ruiz again.
       #Post#: 6711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 6, 2019, 2:22 pm
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       [quote author=Muscle link=topic=198.msg6710#msg6710
       date=1575660241]
       So AJ is 16st 13lb at 6'5 and Ruiz 20st 3lb at 6'0.
       AJ lighter and Ruiz heavier.
       Really hard to put a finger on what will happen. I lean towards
       Ruiz again.
       [/quote]
       at 20 stone 3 if thats legit I think he will struggle , cant see
       someone at that height/weight going the distance , I thought he
       was coming in lighter ???
       Ruiz is still a pretty big favorite , I thought the odds might
       shift after that weigh in.
       #Post#: 6723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 7, 2019, 10:23 am
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       I'm going for AJ, he's actually going to turn up this time. Ruiz
       could still very easily win though.
       #Post#: 6731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 7, 2019, 4:08 pm
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       Boom
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