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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: November 30, 2019, 10:13 am
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       Fury was virtually unknown mate.
       I'm not saying AJ is amazing BTW, I'm just stating a fact.
       Chisora, Haye, Hearn etc all say the same thing.
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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: November 30, 2019, 10:50 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6542#msg6542
       date=1575130402]
       Fury was virtually unknown mate.
       I'm not saying AJ is amazing BTW, I'm just stating a fact.
       Chisora, Haye, Hearn etc all say the same thing.
       [/quote]
       Not sure about that Newc , Fury was well known about where i'm
       from, yeah the others are all about the same , but you can't put
       Fury in that category.  He wasnt as popular due to his looks ,
       but I would say thats changed a lot now.
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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: November 30, 2019, 11:58 am
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       Who was Fury fighting before AJ was on the scene? Had he fought
       Klitschko by then?
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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 1, 2019, 9:36 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6545#msg6545
       date=1575136719]
       Who was Fury fighting before AJ was on the scene? Had he fought
       Klitschko by then?
       [/quote]
       depends what you mean by on the scene, he fought Klit 12 months
       before AJ did and picked up a legit title before AJ did . he
       fought anyone put in front of him .
       AJ on the other hand has only had one great victory in Klit who
       was arguably over the hill , he beat Whyte but looked wobbly and
       got destroyed by Ruiz. But fair play he won the Olympics and he
       looks the part. Hes a huge puncher who could knock anyone out ,
       I just cant see him doing well in scrappy boxing matches.
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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 1, 2019, 1:12 pm
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       Ahh I thought it was earlier than that.
       I'm not going to get into the better boxer or better resume
       debate again mate. Fury has a terrible resume for the time he's
       been boxing, same as Wilder for that matter.
       #Post#: 6555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Trident Date: December 1, 2019, 2:44 pm
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       Its not a good time for the heavyweight division IMO.
       AJ has the better record of the top crop.  Fury has a terrible
       record for a 'lineal champ'  Hes a 2 year bad on his record and
       his last two opponents have been very low in the rankings (real
       World rankings).
       #Post#: 6578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: doc Date: December 2, 2019, 1:53 pm
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=198.msg6554#msg6554
       date=1575227542]
       Ahh I thought it was earlier than that.
       I'm not going to get into the better boxer or better resume
       debate again mate. Fury has a terrible resume for the time he's
       been boxing, same as Wilder for that matter.
       [/quote]
       Who else can Fury fight ? He didn't duck Wilder .  There is a
       good 3-4 heavyweights out there and 2 of them have faced off
       against each other .
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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Newcy Date: December 2, 2019, 3:03 pm
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       Fury and Wilder both duck Whyte, they need to start with him for
       a start, they've both had very good legitimate offers.
       Apart from each other they've collectively got 2 credible other
       opponents. That's absolutely ridiculous.
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       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 2, 2019, 5:51 pm
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       Its happened again lol
       4 goals in 15 mins
       Solihull Moors vs Rotherham Utd
       Solihull bottled it. FA cup madness. I've seen this before in
       cups games the under dogs goes in front then lets loads in at
       the end.
       125/1 for the draw
       The win I got 66/1 once they got 1 back
       
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       #Post#: 6590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ruiz vs joshua 2
       By: Muscle Date: December 2, 2019, 5:53 pm
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       Both on the floor 9/2 at hills
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