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       Re: Kratom 
   DIR By: Newcy
       Date: October 11, 2019, 11:11 am
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       It's definitely not for use before bed, certainly not the kind I
       have. Like you say don't have it after around 3ish.
       I think I prefer phenibut all in all.
       #Post#: 5285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kratom 
   DIR By: doc
       Date: October 12, 2019, 7:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Newcy link ---
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       > It's definitely not for use before bed, certainly not the kind
       I have. Like you say don't have it after around 3ish.
       > I think I prefer phenibut all in all.
       >
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       Phenibut is very good , but if you use it regularly you do get
       withdrawals which are not pleasant . Phenibut is occasional for
       me , id give Kratom a bit more time. when taken together is
       quite good and you need a lot less of both.
       #Post#: 5286--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kratom 
   DIR By: Newcy
       Date: October 12, 2019, 10:12 am
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       I'd bought the wrong kind, his website is very confusing I'm
       going to give it another go.
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       Re: Kratom 
   DIR By: doc
       Date: October 12, 2019, 11:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Newcy link ---
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       > I'd bought the wrong kind, his website is very confusing I'm
       going to give it another go.
       >
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       what did you buy Newc ?
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       Re: Kratom 
   DIR By: Newcy
       Date: October 13, 2019, 4:00 am
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       --- Quote from: doc link ---
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       > [quote author=Newcy link=topic=181.msg5286#msg5286
       date=1570893170]
       > I'd bought the wrong kind, his website is very confusing I'm
       going to give it another go.
       >
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       what did you buy Newc ?
       [/quote
       Red wizard house blend. He has much more appropriate kinds for
       chilling out and sleep.
       #Post#: 11270--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kratom 
   DIR By: Welshboy1980
       Date: July 30, 2020, 9:56 am
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       Hi Doc I know this is a old post and the link dosent work, do
       you have a current link? Cheers pal
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