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       #Post#: 4494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: King Redd Date: September 9, 2019, 5:41 pm
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4470#msg4470
       date=1568028527]
       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4463#msg4463
       date=1567979345]
       Edit - just seen the comments in other post. Doc’s one of the
       least confrontational posters here and on MT, no need for that.
       Forget what I said above
       [/quote]
       I wouldnt ban him, like my ex wife, anyone with a mental illness
       just needs to be listened too, get them to think through what
       they are saying and give a balanced view in response . Hes
       nowhere near as stubborn as she was .
       Hes good for the forum, adds traffic , keeps the posting regular
       and keeps people coming back, i think we all want that . yes he
       can be a total troll with no logic but all in all I think hes an
       asset.
       [/quote]
       No Logic?
       Are you really that thick that you can not understand Veganism.
       It's so simple, yet you want to make it into something ultra
       complicated.
       #Post#: 4505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: doc Date: September 10, 2019, 3:31 am
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       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=166.msg4494#msg4494
       date=1568068911]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4470#msg4470
       date=1568028527]
       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4463#msg4463
       date=1567979345]
       Edit - just seen the comments in other post. Doc’s one of the
       least confrontational posters here and on MT, no need for that.
       Forget what I said above
       [/quote]
       I wouldnt ban him, like my ex wife, anyone with a mental illness
       just needs to be listened too, get them to think through what
       they are saying and give a balanced view in response . Hes
       nowhere near as stubborn as she was .
       Hes good for the forum, adds traffic , keeps the posting regular
       and keeps people coming back, i think we all want that . yes he
       can be a total troll with no logic but all in all I think hes an
       asset.
       [/quote]
       No Logic?
       Are you really that thick that you can not understand Veganism.
       It's so simple, yet you want to make it into something ultra
       complicated.
       [/quote]
       Your right its not complicated  , the stated goals of veganism
       can never be achieved , so its pretty futile. There have been a
       zillion posts on this and its never been addressed in a way that
       makes sense to its logical end.
       #Post#: 4506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: Bookerman Date: September 10, 2019, 3:51 am
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       He’s going beyond his normal parody here. I almost suspect it’s
       another fraud
       #Post#: 4509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: doc Date: September 10, 2019, 5:17 am
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       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4506#msg4506
       date=1568105502]
       He’s going beyond his normal parody here. I almost suspect it’s
       another fraud
       [/quote]
       " our aim is to eliminate all suffering to animals"
       ok then we need to remove all life from earth to achieve that ,
       eating plants causes animal deaths.
       " ok then we just reduce it as much as possible"
       Ok then ill have one beef burger rather than two .
       #Post#: 4510--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: Brett Date: September 10, 2019, 5:53 am
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       But one beef burger won’t have enough protienz!
       #Post#: 4511--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: doc Date: September 10, 2019, 6:39 am
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       [quote author=Brett link=topic=166.msg4510#msg4510
       date=1568112787]
       But one beef burger won’t have enough protienz!
       [/quote]
       It's common knowledge in the vegan community that you don't need
       protein anymore.
       besides why have an heart attack burger when you can have a
       wheelbarrow full of lentils, yum yum and we didnt get to see the
       animals that where killed in getting them to market , that's all
       that matters . Out of sight out of mind.
       #Post#: 4549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: King Redd Date: September 11, 2019, 1:20 pm
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4509#msg4509
       date=1568110644]
       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4506#msg4506
       date=1568105502]
       He’s going beyond his normal parody here. I almost suspect it’s
       another fraud
       [/quote]
       " our aim is to eliminate all suffering to animals"
       [/quote]
       That's not the goal of being veganism...
       #Post#: 4564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: doc Date: September 12, 2019, 6:42 am
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       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=166.msg4549#msg4549
       date=1568226024]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4509#msg4509
       date=1568110644]
       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4506#msg4506
       date=1568105502]
       He’s going beyond his normal parody here. I almost suspect it’s
       another fraud
       [/quote]
       " our aim is to eliminate all suffering to animals"
       [/quote]
       That's not the goal of being veganism...
       [/quote]
       depends on which vegan you ask, that was Trunks aim .
       #Post#: 4631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: doc Date: September 16, 2019, 5:37 am
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       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=166.msg4549#msg4549
       date=1568226024]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4509#msg4509
       date=1568110644]
       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4506#msg4506
       date=1568105502]
       He’s going beyond his normal parody here. I almost suspect it’s
       another fraud
       [/quote]
       " our aim is to eliminate all suffering to animals"
       [/quote]
       That's not the goal of being veganism...
       [/quote]
       Like i said I will try and go vegnasim at one point , just after
       I have gone vegetarianism , but as a bodybuilding it will be
       very difficulties. plants foods just don't have enough proteins
       in those to build efficiencies muscles.
       #Post#: 4643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Return Of The King.
       By: King Redd Date: September 17, 2019, 3:48 am
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4631#msg4631
       date=1568630266]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=166.msg4549#msg4549
       date=1568226024]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=166.msg4509#msg4509
       date=1568110644]
       [quote author=Bookerman link=topic=166.msg4506#msg4506
       date=1568105502]
       He’s going beyond his normal parody here. I almost suspect it’s
       another fraud
       [/quote]
       " our aim is to eliminate all suffering to animals"
       [/quote]
       That's not the goal of being veganism...
       [/quote]
       Like i said I will try and go vegnasim at one point , just after
       I have gone vegetarianism , but as a bodybuilding it will be
       very difficulties. plants foods just don't have enough proteins
       in those to build efficiencies muscles.
       [/quote]
       Excuse Me...
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