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       Re: Arnold vegan film
       By: King Redd Date: September 11, 2019, 1:25 pm
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=165.msg4504#msg4504
       date=1568101621]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4495#msg4495
       date=1568069055]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=165.msg4469#msg4469
       date=1568022437]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4450#msg4450
       date=1567899106]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=165.msg4442#msg4442
       date=1567864880]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4441#msg4441
       date=1567860612]
       you wouldn't know propaganda if it smacked you in the face.
       [/quote]
       Thats a bit retarded
       ive just pointed it out !  all of these vegan/carnivore/climate
       change films are pure propoganda.
       [/quote]
       you're an idiot. It's simply science.
       [/quote]
       Its not simply science , it's simply politics.
       I can post hundreds of studies debunking all of these vegan
       myths ( funded by meat and dairy industry)
       Climate change only gets funding if you agree agree that man
       made climate change is real.
       Its simply a million miles away from actual science, a
       company/film maker sets out with an agenda and cherry picks the
       science to back up there message .  Remember the inconvenient
       truth ? the world ended five years ago.
       If Epstein/Prince Andrew where vegans im pretty sure youd give
       them a pass.
       You need to think a lot more critically, but its basically a lot
       of famous meat eaters who built there success on the back of
       eating meat , now telling people to eat plants .  If Arnold was
       a life long vegan it would be worth a listen.
       Now if you picked out some good points in the documentary , we
       could discuss them individually but when you wrap it up in
       propoganda and ell it as a whole, its a sh1t sandwich.
       [/quote]
       And who is funding the studies that say a whole foods plant
       based diet is the healthiest diet for humans?
       The broccoli lobby?
       [/quote]
       The defence health agency ( military)
       American college of lifestyle medicine
       Special operations medical association
       Green sports alliance.
       Its a bold claim to say its the healthiest diet, it might have
       benefits but it also has drawbacks. As a population we aren't
       too interested in health we are more interested in results and
       enjoyment, thats why people pay to smoke and over eat to the
       point they are obese.
       [/quote]
       And those orgs are vegan ones?
       True, but how much will they enjoy life once their health
       declines so much that it effects their day to day living? Health
       is wealth, its easy to say when you are healthy that you'd
       rather eat steaks and die at 50 then eat veg and die and 90. But
       believe it or not, most people don't just drop dead without any
       warning, most go through years of pain and discomfort before
       they die.
       #Post#: 4563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Arnold vegan film
       By: doc Date: September 12, 2019, 6:40 am
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       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4550#msg4550
       date=1568226352]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=165.msg4504#msg4504
       date=1568101621]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4495#msg4495
       date=1568069055]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=165.msg4469#msg4469
       date=1568022437]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4450#msg4450
       date=1567899106]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=165.msg4442#msg4442
       date=1567864880]
       [quote author=King Redd link=topic=165.msg4441#msg4441
       date=1567860612]
       you wouldn't know propaganda if it smacked you in the face.
       [/quote]
       Thats a bit retarded
       ive just pointed it out !  all of these vegan/carnivore/climate
       change films are pure propoganda.
       [/quote]
       you're an idiot. It's simply science.
       [/quote]
       Its not simply science , it's simply politics.
       I can post hundreds of studies debunking all of these vegan
       myths ( funded by meat and dairy industry)
       Climate change only gets funding if you agree agree that man
       made climate change is real.
       Its simply a million miles away from actual science, a
       company/film maker sets out with an agenda and cherry picks the
       science to back up there message .  Remember the inconvenient
       truth ? the world ended five years ago.
       If Epstein/Prince Andrew where vegans im pretty sure youd give
       them a pass.
       You need to think a lot more critically, but its basically a lot
       of famous meat eaters who built there success on the back of
       eating meat , now telling people to eat plants .  If Arnold was
       a life long vegan it would be worth a listen.
       Now if you picked out some good points in the documentary , we
       could discuss them individually but when you wrap it up in
       propoganda and ell it as a whole, its a sh1t sandwich.
       [/quote]
       And who is funding the studies that say a whole foods plant
       based diet is the healthiest diet for humans?
       The broccoli lobby?
       [/quote]
       The defence health agency ( military)
       American college of lifestyle medicine
       Special operations medical association
       Green sports alliance.
       Its a bold claim to say its the healthiest diet, it might have
       benefits but it also has drawbacks. As a population we aren't
       too interested in health we are more interested in results and
       enjoyment, thats why people pay to smoke and over eat to the
       point they are obese.
       [/quote]
       And those orgs are vegan ones?
       True, but how much will they enjoy life once their health
       declines so much that it effects their day to day living? Health
       is wealth, its easy to say when you are healthy that you'd
       rather eat steaks and die at 50 then eat veg and die and 90. But
       believe it or not, most people don't just drop dead without any
       warning, most go through years of pain and discomfort before
       they die.
       [/quote]
       No idea if they are vegan or not, i just answered your question.
       
       As for eating steak and dying at 50 and eating veg and dying at
       90, i think youll find life expectancy has risen dramatically
       over the past 100 years and it wasnt down to people going vegan
       , it was done whilst not really following any diet .
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       In 50-100 years when there is more evidence when you have
       lifelong vegans living till 130 and meat eaters dying at 90 ,
       then ill listen , but its more likley GMO plant foods have
       killed us before that happens.
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